Help identifying items !

[Newby]

These 3 items were located together, possibly from a military aircraft? Any ideas ?

 

[Grizzly Adams]

One item there appears to be a telegraph key. I gather at one time they used Morse on aircraft. Link chute would positively identify it as military and would be an access cover. From a crash ?

Grizz

 

[oldstarfire]

I suspect the "link chute" is from an A/C, intended to send the ammo belt links out of the A/C.

 

[55recce]

Agreed these are WW2 aircraft crash items. The link chute takes empty casings and links away from the MGs. As this is Gun #3 I am wondering if it might be from the nose of a P38 Ligthning?

 

[Newby]

Thanks for the input, I looked up the P-38. The link chute (on the nose ) appears to be a lot bigger.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Tempted to think upper left is a microphone, it almost looks like there at holes in the black [bakelite ?] front.

Grizz

 

[Brutus]

Wild guess here: Avro Anson Mk II. Trainer bomber.
During WW2 these training AC cris crossed Canada on training missions.
Is what I would place my money on.

Cool stuff......

 

[tacfoley]

Ansons didn't usually have MGs. P38 Lightning had four .50cal in the nose.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Ansons didn't usually have MGs. P38 Lightning had four .50cal in the nose.

We don't know much about the crash, but the US sent thousands of aircraft of various makes, to the Soviet Union, by way of Canada. Many of them didn't make it.

Grizz

 

[Brutus]

Ansons didn't usually have MGs. P38 Lightning had four .50cal in the nose.

Sir I Agree to disagree with you sir.
How else to train your bomber crews during the common wealth aircrew training plan?
When I was posted Moose Jaw the local police did occasionally recover illegally possessed machine guns said to be removed from Avro Anson crash site during WW2.

 

[55recce]

Some Avro Anson were equipped with a single forward firing machine gun and some with a turret with just one MG. So certainly not Anson as this is marked gun #3. Lancaster rear turret? Lockheed Ventura?

 

[Brutus]

Some Avro Anson were equipped with a single forward firing machine gun and some with a turret with just one MG. So certainly not Anson as this is marked gun #3. Lancaster rear turret? Lockheed Ventura?

Well. That makes sense. Thx

I stand corrected.

 

[37patt]

What about the F86 Sabre?

 

[Brutus]

What about the F86 Sabre?

I suggest that's rather unlikely with that Morse code signalling key pad. Most often seen is an aircraft with multiple aircrew. Not impossible but not probable.
Interesting thread indeed.

Cheers

 

[chofo]

Well... this might help... the old boy trained as an Observer and it seems like the Anson was used to practice Bombing, and the Bolingbroke was used to practice Air Gunnery.
IIRC he said both a/c were used to train Wireless Operators... and yes back then it was all Morse Code (At least back in Canada during their training days, at any rate.)

 

[55recce]

Certainly not Anson or Bolingbroke, neither of which had 3+ MG

F86 might be a possibility
http://www.fabulousrocketeers.com/Photo_F86guns.htm
https://twitter.com/historicfirearm/status/1154234247118409729

 

[Brutus]

Certainly not Anson or Bolingbroke, neither of which had 3+ MG

F86 might be a possibility
http://www.fabulousrocketeers.com/Photo_F86guns.htm
https://twitter.com/historicfirearm/status/1154234247118409729

That is really great homework friend.

I suggest contacting an aviation museum curator as your next step. And maybe contact that last American aviation company that uses the last airworthy Sabre jet a target towing aircraft in North America.

 

[scott585]

That is really great homework friend.

I suggest contacting an aviation museum curator as your next step. And maybe contact that last American aviation company that uses the last airworthy Sabre jet a target towing aircraft in North America.

there are actually quite a few flying sabres in private hands. look up agentjayz on youtube

 

[enefgee]

there are actually quite a few flying sabres in private hands. look up agentjayz on youtube

There are some great deals on them at the moment, the mil jet market is surprisingly weak right now.

https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/23684499/north-american-f86f-turbine-military-aircraft

There's an F-5 an F-4 and a Sea Harrier on there too if you have deep pockets.

 

[smellie]

Number 2 Bombing and Gunnery School was at Dafoe, Sask.

They ran aircraft 365 days a year.

It was wartime.