10/22 feeding issue.
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I haven't bothered with anything other than mini mags with my 10/22 for years. There might have been things I could have done to get it to run the really cheap stuff reliably, but meh. I have a couple of other guns that don't like other ammo as well, and everything seems to agree on mini mags, so that's what I run.
On my 10/22, I have used Remington Thunderbolts, and CCI Stingers. Both feed with a high degree of reliability. I feed it through a Butler Creek Steel Lips mag.
For those who have had problems with Winchester rounds, is it the white box rounds, or Winchester in general that have been problematic? I have boxes upon boxes of Winchester Super X (I think that's what it's call - grey box) .22 that I bought years ago on sale (now, maybe I know why...doh!) and never tried them on any of my 22s - maybe I should just put them through my Savage Mark II-G instead of try them on the 10/22. Is Winchester ammo frowned upon? Someone else told me not to use the .223 rounds that I have in Winchester white box on my .223 rifle. Is there a quality issue or a compatibility issue with Winchester in general?
For those who have had problems with Winchester rounds, is it the white box rounds, or Winchester in general that have been problematic? I have boxes upon boxes of Winchester Super X (I think that's what it's call - grey box) .22 that I bought years ago on sale (now, maybe I know why...doh!) and never tried them on any of my 22s - maybe I should just put them through my Savage Mark II-G instead of try them on the 10/22. Is Winchester ammo frowned upon? Someone else told me not to use the .223 rounds that I have in Winchester white box on my .223 rifle. Is there a quality issue or a compatibility issue with Winchester in general?
ALBERTA BOY
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Take a good look at a factory 10/22. There’s a factory applied coating to prevent corrosion. It’s very noticeable on the shiny bolt.
Henry rimfire rifles are really bad for this too. They even call it out in their manual. Degreasing required before use.
Yeah, I wouldn't call that packing grease. Or "embedded in everything." Or much significant.
I took mine out of the box and shot it. Maybe 1k rounds later I cleaned it to see how it was wearing in. That was maybe 5k rounds ago. Since then no lube, no cleaning, no stoppages to speak of. The odd FTF and odd FTE, but the FTEs are all from obviously light loaded rounds. The carbon cleans itself off after it builds up. Only thing I clean is the mags. Don't even have the secondary ejector in, never bothered to put it back in after disassembling for cleaning.
I think people are overthinking this. I'm not advocating for firearm neglect, but for real yo.
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I have assembled a fair number of custom 10/22 rifles and owned quite a few different factory Ruger variants. There is only one ejector in any 10/22 rifle and its contained in the trigger pack. So before you go making fun of others, you should make sure you know what ur speaking of! Maybe you didnt learn this in THE HOOD , for real yo. Ps carbon does not clean itself off. I presently own six different custom 10/22 variants and cant find this secondary ejector so apparently Kidd and Volquartsen have forgotten about this part you say youve removed? LOL WUT
Only one ejector, hey?
So do this. Drop your trigger pack, remove the "only" ejector, reassemble and go shoot a few mags. See what happens.
Hint: the ejector that actually ejects spent cases when it fires ISN'T in the trigger.
I can't credit the hood for teaching me that, rather it was just a basic understanding of how the weapon functions.
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ALBERTA BOY
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Mmmhmmm that’s nice. The point stands, there is an anti-rust coating applied all over most new 22s including the 10/22. I did a thorough clean and removed it (lots on the bolt) and my 10/22 ran fine. That’s saying something. I hate 10/22s and mine was reliable. I won’t exaggerate to give them the benefit of the doubt. All i said was I cleaned mine of the factory coating (perhaps grease was a poor word choice) and it ran fine.
Fair enough - I read "packing grease" literally, and your explanation of cleaning and synthetic greasing it as being the reason why it ran. Although cleaning, lubing and pre firing checks on any new gun is inarguably not a bad idea, it's also absolutely not critical to the functioning in this case.
If I can ask, why do you hate it? I can't say as I have any particular fondness for the 10/22, more a respect for what it is. What about it makes you hate it? I'm not so fond of the chunkier stock compared to alternatives, but then it goes with the design.
ALBERTA BOY
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I’ve explained it in this thread here;
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-Is-the-Ruger-10-22-all-it-s-cracked-up-to-be
I’m well aware that the magazine is the actual primary ejector but the one built in the gun is the one that’s in the trigger pack. It’s the integral part of the gun. So Why remove the built in one that will eject a fired round without a mag?
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Pretty sure if you order an ejector for ur gun a magazine is not gonna show up at ur door. What about the self cleaning carbon. Been shooting a long time and haven’t seen this phenomenon. I’m sure I’m about to learn something again, another math lesson perhaps?
Of course. Sure you were.
Pretty crystal clear to me. Now, you're saying there's TWO electors, and the magazine is the PRIMARY one, which is suspiciously just like what I said. Anyway, glad to clarify it for you.
You know, I'm gonna let you try and figure that one out for yourself. There's a pretty slick little reason.
Uh huh. What's your point? If you need a new secondary ejector you order that, if you need a new primary ejector you order a magazine. That's an issue of understanding how the weapon functions, not terminology.
Did we do math? I don't remember covering that. Anyway, I'm surprised to hear someone with so much experience isn't familiar with self regulating carbon. There's more than a few weapons designed to do exactly that on gas affected parts, where the carbon is scraped off with each shot. Here's a pic - that's about 4k rounds worth of carbon. As you can see, it builds up to a point and then any excess is blown/worn/hammered off. There's no need to remove all that carbon to keep the weapon running.
You honestly believe anyone with half a brain would believe ur gun runs faultless in that condition. Oh thats correct you did say it had FTE and FTF. I wouldnt say thats faultless but blaming the ammo is easier than blaming yourself for negligent gun care. Note to self, buy nothing from LolaPP. Not that he would sell this self carbon cleaning rifle anyway. We did math as your well aware. You enlightened me that 8 was greater than 5 by 3. My world has been forever changed thanks to you. You dont need a screwdriver to pry out the magazines in ur gun either. You removed it to reduce friction on the bolt travel. Anything you or I or anyone else tries on a 10/22 has been done thousands of times before and a long time ago.There are many smart people in the world.
No it requires a full brain. Put another brick and a half through it this afternoon. maybe three or four stovepipes, all were due to audibly low powered rounds, all RWS semi auto. If you'd like video to prove how full of nonsense you are, I'm happy to oblige. I'll be at the range again tomorrow. You know what? Forget it, I'll do it for you anyway.
Ah that was you, ok. More memorable for you than me I guess.
No. Actually, I swapped out the trigger pack for a BX that I haven't removed the ejector from yet, and it ran just flawlessly today with SV ammo. Mags drop free with a push of the forefinger on th.... never mind, I'll just show you tomorrow.
And may you join their ranks one day.
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No worries, I was out shooting anyway, it was no hassle. That's Aguila SE SV. I have a vid with HV ammo, if you'd like to see that too, but I figure showing it cycling with SV should prove the point. The action pic is after another 750 ish rounds through it today. It's been many many thousands of rounds since I've done anything to clean it. As you can clearly see, the carbon can only build to a point before it's physically removed by the action. The bearing surfaces are still bare metal, and will remain so. It's like a freakin PPSh action FFS, it's a big sloppy bolt rattling around in that sloppy receiver.
If you'd like to see any particular ammo going through it LMK and I'll accommodate if I have it.
Just LOOK at this sporco filth pit!
The targets were shot immediately after the video and at the end of the range session. It actually shot ever so slightly better after even more neglect, though still within the running overall average for SK FNB out of it. I have a pile of targets with the stock trigger, they're indistinguishable, and exactly the same average sizes. If you'd like to see those in case you're in doubt, I'm happy to bring the receipts there too. Just let me know. The BX doesn't do a thing for accuracy of course, it's merely nicer to use.
From a completely stock 10/22 Carbine, I don't know what more buyers could expect. I haven't touched or "massaged " the action in any way. It's a freaking $350 rifle that just runs and has good accuracy if you feed it good ammo. With crap ammo it has crap accuracy. No big mystery there.
I'm genuinely flattered how closely you follow my posts and recall them so well. I don't think it needs to be rephrased though - what I said was I hope it DIDN'T melt anyone's brain IF S&B Standard met the 1/2 @ 50 standard. I truly hope it doesn't, that would be awful. It was in the Anschutz thread, not the 10/22 thread, so you only get 50% on that one.
Ok? I'm not clear on what that proves in regards to any claim I've made, or what you're getting at. But sure, why not! Post up some targets of you shooting a stock 10/22 Carbine and let's compare!
As I've said many times, I'm not a 10/22 guy, and really even less of a centerfire Ruger guy. If I wanted to be mean, I'd say they're like the poor man's rich man rifle. I bought this one expressly for the purpose of shooting it stock and absolutely neglecting it. It's not an accident I'm not cleaning it, it's very intentional. I want to see what the reality of the 10/22 is, at least as far as a one gun sample goes. It's been very fun and educational. My verdict so far is that they're very well suited to their intended use. More than capable of it actually.
No worries, I was out shooting anyway, it was no hassle. That's Aguila SE SV. I have a vid with HV ammo, if you'd like to see that too, but I figure showing it cycling with SV should prove the point. The action pic is after another 750 ish rounds through it today. It's been many many thousands of rounds since I've done anything to clean it. As you can clearly see, the carbon can only build to a point before it's physically removed by the action. The bearing surfaces are still bare metal, and will remain so. It's like a freakin PPSh action FFS, it's a big sloppy bolt rattling around in that sloppy receiver.
If you'd like to see any particular ammo going through it LMK and I'll accommodate if I have it.
Just LOOK at this sporco filth pit!
The targets were shot immediately after the video and at the end of the range session. It actually shot ever so slightly better after even more neglect, though still within the running overall average for SK FNB out of it. I have a pile of targets with the stock trigger, they're indistinguishable, and exactly the same average sizes. If you'd like to see those in case you're in doubt, I'm happy to bring the receipts there too. Just let me know. The BX doesn't do a thing for accuracy of course, it's merely nicer to use.
From a completely stock 10/22 Carbine, I don't know what more buyers could expect. I haven't touched or "massaged " the action in any way. It's a freaking $350 rifle that just runs and has good accuracy if you feed it good ammo. With crap ammo it has crap accuracy. No big mystery there.
I'm genuinely flattered how closely you follow my posts and recall them so well. I don't think it needs to be rephrased though - what I said was I hope it DIDN'T melt anyone's brain IF S&B Standard met the 1/2 @ 50 standard. I truly hope it doesn't, that would be awful. It was in the Anschutz thread, not the 10/22 thread, so you only get 50% on that one.
Ok? I'm not clear on what that proves in regards to any claim I've made, or what you're getting at. But sure, why not! Post up some targets of you shooting a stock 10/22 Carbine and let's compare!
As I've said many times, I'm not a 10/22 guy, and really even less of a centerfire Ruger guy. If I wanted to be mean, I'd say they're like the poor man's rich man rifle. I bought this one expressly for the purpose of shooting it stock and absolutely neglecting it. It's not an accident I'm not cleaning it, it's very intentional. I want to see what the reality of the 10/22 is, at least as far as a one gun sample goes. It's been very fun and educational. My verdict so far is that they're very well suited to their intended use. More than capable of it actually.
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