Ontario Moose hunt just died....

Should be 0 calf tags anywhere and only cow tags in units where the population needs to be managed lower.

The brown it’s down mindset is horrible for healthy herds and population numbers. Those mentality hunters are no better than the accused indians. And it’s the same brown it’s down guys complaining about the Indian harvest lol
 
After having the pleasure of living in Northern BC for a few years and hunting moose there, I don't even bother hunting for moose in Ontario anymore. Pay $ every year into a draw and be lucky to get a bull tag every 6 years? No thanks. Archery hunting bulls in the rut was my passion, but I chase muskies in Sept/Oct now.

The numbers are WAY down here now. The MNR needs to base their tag allocations based on science, not a business decision to keep people buying into the draw every year. What kind of biologist agrees to issue cow tags when the populations are down?
 
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Hunting moose is fun but not a priority. The government needs to stop acting on emotion and other BS and stick to reality. Cancelling the spring bear hunt years ago decimated the moose population. It will takes years to recover from that fiasco. Between over hunting and predators this change is long overdue. Frankly, they should just cancel moose hunting (everyone) for 5yrs and manage the predators. I am sure we will all survive just fine for 5 short years in order to ensure a strong, healthy stock of moose for the future.
 
It’s the ticks ....the ticks are killing off the moose....then the bears in the spring..when calf’s are born....then the wolf’s .....
Not to be racist then the aboriginals and Métis ...with there rights of hunting any time ....in my old wmu of 38...they bought the lodge (ritichie falls resort).....have there people there year round ....spoke to the people up there and over 129 moose were killed by them ......
Then there are the poachers ...how many do they kill...
Crossing the road getting hit by vehicles...
Then there is us hunters ....what is left for us ???...sweet freak all!!
Best bet is to hit with truck ...if you wanna get a moose lmao....
 
I'll never understand why someone would want to hunt a calf moose especially when populations are already decimated by unregulated hunters.
 
Desjard said:
I'll never understand why someone would want to hunt a calf moose especially when populations are already decimated by unregulated hunters.
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I can't even understand why people would hunt any moose without antlers? And don't say it's for the cheap meat!

A long week-end away from the ol' lady, I'd believe.:)
 
trebor2880 said:
I can't even understand why people would hunt any moose without antlers? And don't say it's for the cheap meat!

A long week-end away from the ol' lady, I'd believe.:)
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Yeah that too. I could easy pull a cow tag every few years where I am in AB but I will never. Cheap meat I can shoot 3 WT a year with rifle if I wanted cheap meat in the right zones. Bull moose or no moose for this guy.
 
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Sure, lets keep the land that we gained in those treaties and reneg on the commitments we made to obtain the land. Seems honourable.
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only required to be honourable when dealing with the same...they keep blockading the land they gave up in the treaties and taking it back unlawfully...holding the Town of Caledonia hostage, blocking the railway, sure, lets just keep rolling over and TIUTA
 
Until the uncontrolled harvest by aboriginals is stopped or at least controlled, the moose population is doomed anyways.

This new tag system will make things fairer for hunters, but my guess is there won't be a huntable population in 10 or so years anyways.
 
Habitat loss maybe be the biggest issue regarding the declining moose population . Moose require a multi species boreal forest and much of that has disappeared only to be re-planted with the money trees , spruce and jack pine for the mills . Moose require aquatic plants and browse and not all wood is browse . Moose are very selective in what they will and can eat and they don't eat conifers while the browse is being choked out by the planting of exclusive money crops in place of multi species coniferous and deciduous forests . We've been doing this for over 100 years , habitat destruction and now the declining moose numbers reflect the declining food source . Add to that the slaughter of calves by bears and wolves along with the slaughter of adults and throw in brain worm and the future doesn't look bright . The bear population is still skyrocketing and there are more wolves out there all the time . I don't really see any solution as one special interest group or another will fight any change so in 5 years and 10 years i expect to see fewer and fewer moose and fewer and fewer hunters the result of fewer and fewer tags . I know most of the members on two reservations around me and a lot of members on many other reservations and native over harvesting in northern and northwestern Ontario is mostly a myth and scapegoating while the real problems go unattended .
 
I hunt 49 and I'd be HAPPY if it was ZERO calf moose tags given out. We have 3 members in our group with 15 points, I have 12, my father has 12, both my brothers have 10. We are dying for an adult tag, Calf hunting sucks!
 
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I'm 74 years old.
The last moose i shot was in 2011.
It was near kap.
It was full of parasites.
The mnr laughed at me, when i went, cap in hand, to ask for another tag.
I told them that as of that day,
i was not going to ever buy another licence.
I now bought a nice CHEAP 303 camera and i [shoot and release].
 
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Jaaska said:
Habitat loss maybe be the biggest issue regarding the declining moose population . Moose require a multi species boreal forest and much of that has disappeared only to be re-planted with the money trees , spruce and jack pine for the mills . Moose require aquatic plants and browse and not all wood is browse . Moose are very selective in what they will and can eat and they don't eat conifers while the browse is being choked out by the planting of exclusive money crops in place of multi species coniferous and deciduous forests . We've been doing this for over 100 years , habitat destruction and now the declining moose numbers reflect the declining food source . Add to that the slaughter of calves by bears and wolves along with the slaughter of adults and throw in brain worm and the future doesn't look bright . The bear population is still skyrocketing and there are more wolves out there all the time . I don't really see any solution as one special interest group or another will fight any change so in 5 years and 10 years i expect to see fewer and fewer moose and fewer and fewer hunters the result of fewer and fewer tags . I know most of the members on two reservations around me and a lot of members on many other reservations and native over harvesting in northern and northwestern Ontario is mostly a myth and scapegoating while the real problems go unattended .
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Tell that to our Prairie moose. :rolleyes: They do very well many miles from swamps and boreal forests, seeing as there way less predators .

Grizz
 
Ontario needs to step into the 21st century and enact the same style draw systems AB and SK have. You may have to wait a while for a tag(tags) but it pays off in an abundant resource and costs the hunter a lot less $ than having to buy a full license in order to apply to the draws.
 
Jaaska said:
Habitat loss maybe be the biggest issue regarding the declining moose population . Moose require a multi species boreal forest and much of that has disappeared only to be re-planted with the money trees , spruce and jack pine for the mills . Moose require aquatic plants and browse and not all wood is browse . Moose are very selective in what they will and can eat and they don't eat conifers while the browse is being choked out by the planting of exclusive money crops in place of multi species coniferous and deciduous forests . We've been doing this for over 100 years , habitat destruction and now the declining moose numbers reflect the declining food source . Add to that the slaughter of calves by bears and wolves along with the slaughter of adults and throw in brain worm and the future doesn't look bright . The bear population is still skyrocketing and there are more wolves out there all the time . I don't really see any solution as one special interest group or another will fight any change so in 5 years and 10 years i expect to see fewer and fewer moose and fewer and fewer hunters the result of fewer and fewer tags . I know most of the members on two reservations around me and a lot of members on many other reservations and native over harvesting in northern and northwestern Ontario is mostly a myth and scapegoating while the real problems go unattended .
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I have to agree to an extent but at the same time then how do you explain an ever growing moose population in the heavily farmed farmlands of the AB & SK prairies? There is nothing that resembles moose habitat here where I reside and the moose population is expanding greatly all the way south to the US border. I've seen as many moose in 8 years in this area than as all my years growing up and hunting in Northern Ontario.
 
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