Weatherby Vanguard - sub MOA models worth the extra $$ ?

scott_r said:
Whats your saying isnt even comparable, the Model 88 lever action has taken all sorts of big game, many being trophies across North America and Africa. The .22 has taken 1 and was in self defence and a fluke shot. The buck knife has also been used to kill a grizzly this fall in Northern Alberta, gonna compare that to the 88 lever as well??
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Then we have Karomojo Bell who killed more elephants than most other people on earth using a .275 rigby, the equivalent of a 7x57 mauser.
So does that make the 275 rigby a top choice for hunting elephant??

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BELL/2002-08/1029109678

The point is that just because the world record whitetail was killed with a model 88,does not in any way make the model 88 the best choice for hunting whitetail.
 
Layne Simpson did a write-up on it a few months or a year ago...a couple factory loads were even a bit faster in the 24" Vanguard that the 26" Mark V.
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And common sense would lead one to believe that those factory loads were developing more chamber pressure in the vanguard rifle.Either the vanguard had a tight chamber,or the mark V had a loose chamber.All other things being equal,the 26" barrel will produce more velocity.
 
I own and shoot a Weatherby Vanguard in a 338 win mag stainless. out of the box, With a Bushnell 3-9x (50$ at wally), shooting the cheapest ammo I could find (old and random gun show crap), at 22yards I was getting 1 1/2 groups or MOA. After hand loading, adding a nice heavy bi-pod, adjusting the trigger, and learning not to flinch I now can shoot to 300 yards at sub moa. ( once I get on a longer range, Ill see how far it goes)
 
stubblejumper is right. 1 1/2 inches at 22 yards is me with my SKS, folding stock folded, shooting it one handed like a pistol. Maybe you just had a real may typo moment and meant 1 1/2 inches at 100 yards, which is still fairly crappy for a .338 win mag actually. Most .338's I know are very accurate.

1 1/2" @ 22 yards is almost 7 MOA. Must be some mistake.
 
stubblejumper said:
Then we have Karomojo Bell who killed more elephants than most other people on earth using a .275 rigby, the equivalent of a 7x57 mauser.
So does that make the 275 rigby a top choice for hunting elephant??

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/BELL/2002-08/1029109678

The point is that just because the world record whitetail was killed with a model 88,does not in any way make the model 88 the best choice for hunting whitetail.
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You missed my point completly, you exhaust things to death
 
It shoots!

I took out my new Vanguard in ".257 Roy" this morning, and it shoots really well! With Weatherby factory 100 grain PSP's, it puts three shots into a nice symmetrical cluster less than an inch across. :) Man, is that rifle a pussycat to shoot after bench shooting my .35 Whelen. ;)

I've got it zeroed 2" high at 100 yards for now, and tomorrow I'm taking it out hunting! :D

Eagerly, Jeff/1911.
 
Jeff/1911 said:
I took out my new Vanguard in ".257 Roy" this morning, and it shoots really well! With Weatherby factory 100 grain PSP's, it puts three shots into a nice symmetrical cluster less than an inch across. :) Man, is that rifle a pussycat to shoot after bench shooting my .35 Whelen. ;)

I've got it zeroed 2" high at 100 yards for now, and tomorrow I'm taking it out hunting! :D

Eagerly, Jeff/1911.
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Sounds like a great deer gun!! Post some pics of the monster you shoot with it;)

Cheers!!
 
Here is the target I shot today, after firing three shots to dial in the scope. :) It looks to be about a 5/8" spread. I'm really looking forward to loading for this rifle.

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stubblejumper said:
It was indeed a model 88,and as the link below also states,Hanson and a fellow hunter missed the buck several times before killing it.Maybe if he had been using a more accurate bolt action,he would have killed it with the first shot.:D

http://www.kingsoutdoorworld.com/stories/hanson_story.htm
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Correct...and he actually hit the antlers with one shot almost breaking them...which would have negated any "record" measurements...I hope Milo bought a better rifle with all the cash he got from that deer
 
Rembo said:
Correct...and he actually hit the antlers with one shot almost breaking them...which would have negated any "record" measurements...
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Having a broken antler doesnt negate the scoring process. Take alook at the Johnny King Buck 213 6/8 typical. He blew off one antler with his bolt action rifle.
He would have had the new world record buck but judges ruled that both G3 tines were non-typical thus putting it the non-typical catagory.

Rules change fellows, take alook at the B&C scoring and you will see this.
 
maybe if the antlers had been a bit smllaer he wouldn't have hit them............:)....and maybe he would have been looking where he was trying to shoot instead of gawking at the rack...:)

I have a WT antler here with a bullet fragment in it.....picked it up off the remains of a deer that I found in the spring.
 
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