Scout Rifle Build Questions
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maple_leaf_eh
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There is/was a synthetic stock No.4 sporter on the EE now for about $400. Just about everything is already there in one package.
In what fantasy land are you winning firefights with a flush magazine vs protruding one? There is probably no military on earth you can't handle with ease since they are all having magazine sticking down from their guns.
Also in that magic fantasy land magazines get lost and clips never do, just stick to you with some sort of magnetism I guess.
Really ? My RUGER Gunsight Scout WAS Very Much a Controlled round FEED rifle ! RJ
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Perhaps you have real, first hand combat experience from which you can relate? There are pros and cons to both designs.
That came later. Early ones were top load. Some modified for stripper clips (as were some Rem 40x rifles For certain competitions). I have seen modified receivers. A Mauser would be easy to do, but hard to make weight on. I have built , hmm, four scout rifles I believe. Only have the one left, built on a Rem 600. Very handy rifles. The receiver can be slotted for stripper clips, but it adds a lot to the expense when making one, u less you can do the work yourself. - dan
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Without getting into a pissing match and derailing the OP's thread... I am saying there are most certainly situations where box mags, as on an SKS, or complex blind mags (en bloc system) as on a Garand, or simple blind mags as on an M98, which allows the shooter to hunker down into a lower prone position. Yes, this can also be tactically advantageous.
OP: i would love to see a Scout No4 Lee Enfield. Scout is a doctrine, and it’s up to any of us to make it our own design. No need to please anyone on the internet 
If the M305 was still a NR option, I’d suggest this as to me, it is the perfect Scout rifle. I currently have a Scout AR15 gathering dust in the safe. A Savage Scout could do the trick for the 308win requirement.
Perhaps you do ?
Both design have pros and cons ?
PROS:
Box Magazine: bigger capacity, consumable on they fail you toss them or recycle them, easier to store large quantities of ammo
Internal magazine: can’t loose it, can reload one by one (think SKS)
CONS:
Box mag: don’t lose all of them or you’ll need to find more, not all magazines are created equalf
Internal mag: don’t lose that one they tend to be expensive, stripper clips or loose ammo don’t store that well compared to box mags.
Going prone won’t change a thing either ways. You can’t make yourself smaller or lower to the ground than it is humanly possible, magazine or not and if you will need to shoulder and aim.
Scouts travel light and are not supposed to end up being the main effort of a firefight so stripper clips or magazines could be used depending on the platform. A true scout/sharpshooter will make good use of both designs.
If the M305 was still a NR option, I’d suggest this as to me, it is the perfect Scout rifle. I currently have a Scout AR15 gathering dust in the safe. A Savage Scout could do the trick for the 308win requirement.
Perhaps you do ?
Both design have pros and cons ?
PROS:
Box Magazine: bigger capacity, consumable on they fail you toss them or recycle them, easier to store large quantities of ammo
Internal magazine: can’t loose it, can reload one by one (think SKS)
CONS:
Box mag: don’t lose all of them or you’ll need to find more, not all magazines are created equalf
Internal mag: don’t lose that one they tend to be expensive, stripper clips or loose ammo don’t store that well compared to box mags.
Going prone won’t change a thing either ways. You can’t make yourself smaller or lower to the ground than it is humanly possible, magazine or not and if you will need to shoulder and aim.
Scouts travel light and are not supposed to end up being the main effort of a firefight so stripper clips or magazines could be used depending on the platform. A true scout/sharpshooter will make good use of both designs.
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As cringy and blasphemous as this may sound, similar to other posters' suggestions of a sporter No4 option, you might consider just getting a synthetic stock for your No5MkI. It may just do everything you want it to do rather than chase a build that has move on from your scout ideals.
maple_leaf_eh
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I think those arguments were settled in the 1940s when the Germans issued MP44 rifles (true assault rifles) with long extended magazines. It would take a very long conversation to convince me that their mags were the reason the Germans lost the Second War. Rifles were detachable magazines have been widely accepted and widely used on operations since the 1950s.
And before we leave this subject. Isn't the soldier's head high too? And what about the heel of the butt angling the muzzle down?
The Spanish FR7 and 8 use a revolving disk like the FN C1 rifle and the sight is close to the shooter's eyeball, where it should be.
I've always liked the magazine buttstock storage for the Steyr. Mostly because it allows you to pick up your unloaded rifle and have ammunition with it, ready to go.
I don't care about top loading the magazine though. It took him 3x as long to add in a couple of rounds of ammo as it would have been to pop in a new magazine. If you have your ammunition stored in magazines, why would you carry around some loose ammo in your pocket, anyway?
