Please delete

Status
Not open for further replies.
You keep saying sofa experts. Take a look at the sticky O/U and S/S picture thread. Some of these "sofa experts" have the finest vintage shotgun collections in the country.
I’m very happy for those,it didn’t help much in my thread
Not many of them trying to show their collections here and especially get ,,experts evaluation advises,,
I’m being silly,perhaps
 
I’m not sure fine craftsmanship was super high on the agenda in Suhl in 1945/1946...

OP said it was built in 1944 (sold in '46)
- Wonder if there were "prisoners" working in the factory ?

Not to generalize, but most (if not to say all) Germans I've known over the years had some sort of OCD about "quality".
- As in, even when repainting the floor of the range with rollers, they'd put masking tape around the edge of the walls and go over with a brush :yingyang:
 
OP said it was built in 1944 (sold in '46)
- Wonder if there were "prisoners" working in the factory ?

Not to generalize, but most (if not to say all) Germans I've known over the years had some sort of OCD about "quality".
- As in, even when repainting the floor of the range with rollers, they'd put masking tape around the edge of the walls and go over with a brush :yingyang:

Prisoners working for the German war machine often had supervision. Example: one of my great uncles in occupied Belgium was caught outside past curfew.
The Germans noted he was a carpenter hence expectedly good with tools.
So he was enslaved at a Messurschmiddt(?)plant building Me-109s. His job was riveting on or about the wing spar. Any mis step was rewarded with a strike across the head delivered by a German airframe technician and re rivet that part perfectly straight and tight.
 
One can really see how these Suhl shotguns influenced the lines of future Baikal sxs shotguns.
Just one observation. It's not unlike an IJ-58.
Almost everything was stolen by Russians from Germans,when it came to post WW2 guns-AK47 is a fine example of it
IJ(Ijevsk)58 is a almost identical copy of Sauer 8
One of the most productive shotgun during Soviet Era-58 Model
 
Thanks for admiring it,it’s an exceptionally fine preserved piece of history of WW2
I assume it’s hard to do price evaluation on this one

If we were in Germany I would say I know of a few gents that can give you an idea, yes I have sent them photos. I know of a few fine examples of shotguns in such conditions that have fetched 1-3000 euro.
 
Almost everything was stolen by Russians from Germans,when it came to post WW2 guns-AK47 is a fine example of it
IJ(Ijevsk)58 is a almost identical copy of Sauer 8
One of the most productive shotgun during Soviet Era-58 Model

Yes sir and I can attest to that myself.
When cash was tight and pre-lead ban years in Saskatchewan my IJ-58E model harvested oodles of huns, sharptails and mallards for my growing young family. Oh yes, even jackrabbits into the cook pot via buckshot.
 
If we were in Germany I would say I know of a few gents that can give you an idea, yes I have sent them photos. I know of a few fine examples of shotguns in such conditions that have fetched 1-3000 euro.
Well,I doubt I can get 3000€(4500)$ Canadian dollars for this gun here
Perhaps I should ship it back to Europe,where it has more value lol
 
Well,I doubt I can get 3000€(4500)$ Canadian dollars for this gun here
Perhaps I should ship it back to Europe,where it has more value lol

It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I have a mauser with the dirty birds on it and it is simply verboten to have one of those in Germany. During the war many German officers commissioned meister gunsmiths to make them shotguns and alike. I would see if there is a market here for it.
 
Yes sir and I can attest to that myself.
When cash was tight and pre-lead ban years in Saskatchewan my IJ-58E model harvested oodles of huns, sharptails and mallards for my growing young family. Oh yes, even jackrabbits into the cook pot via buckshot.

IJ 58,54,26 common Soviet SxS shotguns,all copied by Communists from their German predecessors
They all had been manufactured in huge numbers,and all those 3 models are pretty good and reliable shooters(I had all those 3 models in my collection)
Most Post WW2 German shotguns,as of lack of good quality own steel,at that time-had been produced out of popular Soviet steel mark 50 PA(or A) and most of Soviet post war guns,until mid 80th,were produced with 50 PA steel
 
A "working man's" gun - level of finishing adequate for purpose. Only proofed with black powder, and clearly dated 1946.
Chokes at 0.028 and 0.032 - are tight - improved modified to light full. I would not consider the chokes ideal for upland hunting, and the weight is not disclosed.
There has been a flood of similar guns manufactured in the DDR, admittedly mostly in lesser condition, imported to N. America from Scandinavian countries recently.
Condition is excellent, but as Canvasback says, the OP won't be happy with our opinion of value.
 
And now the pictures are gone :confused:... (must be something to do with the VPN... Ho well)

There has been a flood of similar guns manufactured in the DDR, admittedly mostly in lesser condition, imported to N. America from Scandinavian countries recently.

Tradeex (and its vendors) have been getting a whole bunch of them (without the history and certificat, of course)
 
Last edited:
OP said it was built in 1944 (sold in '46)
- Wonder if there were "prisoners" working in the factory ?

Not to generalize, but most (if not to say all) Germans I've known over the years had some sort of OCD about "quality".
- As in, even when repainting the floor of the range with rollers, they'd put masking tape around the edge of the walls and go over with a brush :yingyang:

Where is the indication the gun was made in 1944? By the stamping on the barrel flats, it was made April of 1946.
 
To condemn people with vast experience, that you don't know, is beyond rude.
Don't insult people that you are asking for favours.
Your ignorance is showing.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom