IN-STOCK NOW: Type 81 Picatinny Side Mounts + LMG Compensators + RU MIL PK06 Red Dots
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works well with the caliber now will it work on your rig that is different and cant wait to read your answer and test on it ...
Yep, that's the very same optic I'm waiting on. I actually already have one mounted on a CZ 527 and absolutely love it, in regards to the Type 81 I'm mainly looking at the positioning and to see if I can get a comfortable fit with it. I'm thinking I'll have to come up with some kind of cheek rest system for the folding stock, but we'll see.
I can confirm if your willing to do a crap ton of filing/dremeling/grinding you can get it to work with other AK mounts. I was not able to get an RS regulate mount to slide on, (though if I was willing to file some more it probably would). But this AK PU scope mount will go on there now, though it is pretty tight (again, I probably could have kept filing to fix this but ran out of steam last night). And the picatinny mount still fits as well (due to the adjustable nature of the mount).
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The mount offered by TI seems to be from Aliexpress/Amazon and it's advertised to be a 'universal ak mount'. Can you show which parts need to be modified to fit other mounts? I'm thinking of getting a POSP scope with AK style mount.
Also seems like your pictures are not uploaded correctly. Cheers!
It's a real pretty setup, but did you clean/blue the rail afterward? That cam lock channel looks pretty janky. The shim could also use some work.
Final result is really interesting, though. Not the first time I've seen a PU scope on an AK (or in this case a derivative) but it's pretty damn rare.
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Using TI's mount, I'd definitely not slap glass that sits proudly forward off the rail without putting on some kind of homemade deflector.
My own mount covers directly over the ejection port and I haven't seen much in the sort of dings or scratches from brass strikes anywhere on it. Brass tends to clear it with room to spare, but my optic is definitely protected from out-of-the-ordinary ejection. I got really good eye-relief distance with a Bushnell 1-4x (Bushnell Prime 1-4x24mm) and I got good chinweld game. I wouldn't have felt comfortable using that on TI's mounting solution at all.
Alright people. I took my rifle to the range to sight in today with my mount. I was able to sight it in to 50 yards without issue. After I got it dialed I fired about 10 rounds at some silhouette steel at 100 and they all hit center. Seems to hold zero fine. My dot ended up almost exactly in the middle just a little high. Sits over the front sight post by what looks like half an inch. Here is a photo. I don't think anybody has to worry about running out of windage adjustment room.
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Alright people. I took my rifle to the range to sight in today with my mount. I was able to sight it in to 50 yards without issue. After I got it dialed I fired about 10 rounds at some silhouette steel at 100 and they all hit center. Seems to hold zero fine. My dot ended up almost exactly in the middle just a little high. Sits over the front sight post by what looks like half an inch. Here is a photo. I don't think anybody has to worry about running out of windage adjustment room.
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Good to hear, thanks for the range report.
Looks like a nice setup, I'll keep a red dot for the TI mount, and see what others come up with. Sounds like there's another mount in the works, but only includes the dovetail mount + right side 90 degree safety. I'll pick one of those up for the LMG, I'd rather have magnification on that one, since weight is already an issue. The rifle feels right with a RDS.
Bushnell AR 1-4 arrived, with medium-height rings the rear lens just barely clears the rail. However this setup on a T81 folder is wonky at best, the factory length of pull is just a little short for a proper eye relief distance, and the eye box is difficult to find quickly without a good cheek weld. It's still usable, but I find a red dot or even my old PA 3x Prism to be superior options. Oh well, was worth a shot.
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Have you had a chance to take your 3x PA to the range on it yet? If so, how'd you find it? Did you get to try it beyond 100m?
I don't know if there's enough meat at the end of the folder to wrap it around, or if the angle will work right, but Reddit user KibaArmsAssociate on r/CanadaGuns posted he used a UTG Model Butt Pad on his fixed rifle to give it just that little bit extra length of pull. -> https://www.amazon.ca/UTG-Model-Combat-Butt-Pad/dp/B002TUSK06
From Reddit r/Canada -> https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/phnnrc/my_type_81_buildso_far/
KibaArmsAssociate on Reddit r/Canada said:
Even if the above device does not work, would it be possible to 3D-Print out some kind butt pad extension to give you the needed length of pull? I'm sure the community would appreciate this, as I've heard multiple reviews state the LOP is just a bit too short on the various Type 81 firearms.
Negative. But playing around the house I have no problems finding the reticle when shouldering, eyebox is larger, eye relief is good with the original stock. Comfortable chin weld with the folder, haven't tried it on an LMG stock yet. The newer Primary Arms prisms sit even lower, so assuming the eye relief remains similar to the older model, I think those will be the best magnified optics to use with this rifle and TI's mount.
I actually tried that 1" AK butt pad on the folder, while it makes it nicer to shoulder it definitely doesn't lengthen it enough to use a Bushnell 1-4 comfortably. Unfortunantly I don't think an LPVO is going to perform well without doing a bunch of custom work, whether it be adding some kind of shell deflector so the optic can sit further forward, or doing a crazy long stock extension and accompanying cheek riser. Personally I'm going to go with the lazy route and just stick with an optic that works good enough with the standard setup.
I got that UTG buttpad (or a copy), and you absolutely need to set (most) LPVOs so they protrude over the ejections port. Either use a mount that protects the glass, or figure out how to brass a shall deflector somewhere appropriate.
I tried putting a bit of extra meat under the paracord I use on my folding stock to raise the cheekweld enough, but that obviously got in the way when I removed the mount and scope. I even thought about using the small keyhole-shaped hole thing used to retain the cleaning kit to have something like a 'quick detach' cheek riser, but I abandoned the idea. Might revisit that in the future, but for now chinweld it is, I guess.
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Any review on PK-06 optic please? I came across this on optic planet
“ If you bought this optic because it's the best thing to hit the Tarkov exclusionary zone since canned beef stew, go ahead and hit that subscribe button. Then be prepared to be disappointed by what may possibly be the worst collimator ever created. Honestly not sure if I received an authentic PK-06 or if it's just really that bad of an optic. I actually returned one of these with a different vendor and picked one up on OP (it was cheaper and would ship faster) for two reasons: A.) the auto-brightness setting wasn't functioning and B.) because it didn't come with the hex wrenches depicted or referenced in the manual. I was certain I drew the short straw and got a bad box, but lo' and behold, the PK-06 received from OpticsPlanet had the exact same problems. Be forewarned that if you do decide you're going to LARP with this thing on an airsoft gun (since that may be all it's useable for), you'll be utilizing the full intensity setting at all times unless you're a nighttime oper8r, because it is barely functional at best. I did decide to try it out since I figured it "must just be the way it is" or something, and I REALLY wanted to get that authentic slav look on my modernized AKM, but as it turns out those issues were just the beginning of the nightmare that is utilizing the PK-06. Ignoring the fact that zeroing this dumpster fire of a red dot is painfully inefficient, since adjustments are quite literally a guessing game given that there's no form of measurement or tactile responsiveness from the adjustment screws, the thing CANNOT hold a zero. I don't mean that if you don't tighten down the locking screw (yes, the adjustment screws require a separate locking screw to hold them in place) it will drift after firing off a few rounds, I mean that if you dry fire the gun while it's mounted you can actually watch the reticle bounce around and settle somewhere else. I tested this on a railed gas tube, an offset mount, and a railed dust cover just for science and giggles. Same results on each. If that's not enough, the reticle wasn't actually level and had a slight leftward cant - so only the solo red dot was feasible to use. It is truly something else to behold. I cannot fathom how somebody gets away with charging over $200 for something that performs worse than a $40 SightMark off of Amazon. I've heard there's a PK-06 Gen2 version that fixes a lot of the complaints people have about the original, and I'm honestly not sure which version this is. What I can say is that unless you want to cosplay a PMC and really go for that authenticity factor, you're going to want to avoid this optic like the plague. -2/10, would not recommend.
45/45 found this helpful
Pros:
Looks cool
Cons:
Is Actually a Dumpster Fire
Best Used For:
Basement LARPing
Would Recommend: No”
Is it really that bad?
“ If you bought this optic because it's the best thing to hit the Tarkov exclusionary zone since canned beef stew, go ahead and hit that subscribe button. Then be prepared to be disappointed by what may possibly be the worst collimator ever created. Honestly not sure if I received an authentic PK-06 or if it's just really that bad of an optic. I actually returned one of these with a different vendor and picked one up on OP (it was cheaper and would ship faster) for two reasons: A.) the auto-brightness setting wasn't functioning and B.) because it didn't come with the hex wrenches depicted or referenced in the manual. I was certain I drew the short straw and got a bad box, but lo' and behold, the PK-06 received from OpticsPlanet had the exact same problems. Be forewarned that if you do decide you're going to LARP with this thing on an airsoft gun (since that may be all it's useable for), you'll be utilizing the full intensity setting at all times unless you're a nighttime oper8r, because it is barely functional at best. I did decide to try it out since I figured it "must just be the way it is" or something, and I REALLY wanted to get that authentic slav look on my modernized AKM, but as it turns out those issues were just the beginning of the nightmare that is utilizing the PK-06. Ignoring the fact that zeroing this dumpster fire of a red dot is painfully inefficient, since adjustments are quite literally a guessing game given that there's no form of measurement or tactile responsiveness from the adjustment screws, the thing CANNOT hold a zero. I don't mean that if you don't tighten down the locking screw (yes, the adjustment screws require a separate locking screw to hold them in place) it will drift after firing off a few rounds, I mean that if you dry fire the gun while it's mounted you can actually watch the reticle bounce around and settle somewhere else. I tested this on a railed gas tube, an offset mount, and a railed dust cover just for science and giggles. Same results on each. If that's not enough, the reticle wasn't actually level and had a slight leftward cant - so only the solo red dot was feasible to use. It is truly something else to behold. I cannot fathom how somebody gets away with charging over $200 for something that performs worse than a $40 SightMark off of Amazon. I've heard there's a PK-06 Gen2 version that fixes a lot of the complaints people have about the original, and I'm honestly not sure which version this is. What I can say is that unless you want to cosplay a PMC and really go for that authenticity factor, you're going to want to avoid this optic like the plague. -2/10, would not recommend.
45/45 found this helpful
Pros:
Looks cool
Cons:
Is Actually a Dumpster Fire
Best Used For:
Basement LARPing
Would Recommend: No”
Is it really that bad?
