Liberals plan to ''End Gun Violence''

ambishooter said:
Just saw it on TV, looks like CPC is keeping the OIC, and proposing a Firearms Reclassification . Oh boy, a massive policy collapse? Or another twisted campaign push by Libs in an effort to achieve a majority govt.
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We will probably get an extended amnesty as they do their public, law enforcement, and business consultations. Then we get a reworked classifications system that makes it so it's not a mine field to wade through and things are easy to understand. That's what I got from this. I didn't get we will keep the ban, much rather it will stay until we can do our consultations. That's what I took away. Will it happen that way? This is politics we know nothing ever goes completely to plan or as said it would. But with that said their is literally no other option to kick justin out of office. So unless you live in a riding with a NPC on the heals of beating a liberal candidate CCP is the only realy choice we have.
 
CAD said:
With a cooler head I read the article


It does state he will leave the oic in effect but leaves the road open to cancelling it if his public un politized review recommends that

Ithis is actually pretty savvy
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He's being tactical and making sure the Libs can't use guns as a wedge issue. Some of the PPC idiots on this board need to wake up and realize O'Toole is military. He uses tactics, not fear, to get to his goals.

A vote for PPC is a vote for Trudeau.
 
Kosmonument said:
He's being tactical and making sure the Libs can't use guns as a wedge issue. Some of the PPC idiots on this board need to wake up and realize O'Toole is military. He uses tactics, not fear, to get to his goals.

A vote for PPC is a vote for Trudeau.
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EXACTLY, It's an extremely big brain move. Hopefully most firearms owners on here can see that.
 
Any hope for the Conservatives ended when they kicked Sloan to the curb. I don’t much care for the party any longer but a vote anywhere else puts the Libs that much closer to staying in power. I don’t like it. I’d rather vote differently. But given what is at stake I can live 4 years under a Conservative government far easier than another Lib government. Make no mistake Blair and sockboy want us fully disarmed and reliant upon them for every scrap they’ll throw our way. This is a precarious place we find ourselves in. Vote wisely.
 
G.Mitchell said:
Any hope for the Conservatives ended when they kicked Sloan to the curb. I don’t much care for the party any longer but a vote anywhere else puts the Libs that much closer to staying in power. I don’t like it. I’d rather vote differently. But given what is at stake I can live 4 years under a Conservative government far easier than another Lib government. Make no mistake Blair and sockboy want us fully disarmed and reliant upon them for every scrap they’ll throw our way. This is a precarious place we find ourselves in. Vote wisely.
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Exactly. Runkle of the Bailey (Canadian Firearms lawyer on Youtube) just posted a 16 minute video today explaining the Liberal platform for guns. Every gun owner (especially PPC voters) should watch this short video to understand what's at stake in this election by not voting CPC.
 
G.Mitchell said:
Any hope for the Conservatives ended when they kicked Sloan to the curb. I don’t much care for the party any longer but a vote anywhere else puts the Libs that much closer to staying in power. I don’t like it. I’d rather vote differently. But given what is at stake I can live 4 years under a Conservative government far easier than another Lib government. Make no mistake Blair and sockboy want us fully disarmed and reliant upon them for every scrap they’ll throw our way. This is a precarious place we find ourselves in. Vote wisely.
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I feel it was necessary. I didn't like the way he did it but it got enough of a buzz that it showed at least through media stories he was willing to meet in the middle ground, and oust trouble makers under the social conservative banner. Sloan would of consistently went against conservative talking points, and put a wrench into the wheel of the new leaders ability to form a party platform and message that stuck and resonated with voters. Sloan starting the Maverick party and moving to a new province to do it, I think is a major indicator that O'toole was correct in his decision.
 
Stan604 said:
This is bs!

Man, I wasn't happy about it either but I understood why he needed to do it. The Canadian public has been mislead for years on guns, and O'Toole simply does not have enough time to turn things around after years of misinformation given the election is in a couple of weeks. As I mentioned in an earlier post, Runkle of the Bailey (Canadian Firearms lawyer on Youtube) posted a 16 minute video (titled " Real Lawyer Reviews The Liberal Firearm Platform" ) yesterday explaining what would happen should the Libtards get re-elected.

A vote for PPC is a vote for Trudeau.
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The liberal shills on this forum are laughing with glee as they think we will sink our own ship.Don t be fooled by anyone on here who wants you to vote for the PPC they are our enemy and want to sow discord among our members so we split our vote and Thst scum Trudeau wins again by using more dirty trickd
 
Your only option is to vote for the Conservatives

If you vote for the PPC, or the NDP, or the Bloc, or the Greens...you are voting for Trudeau and the Liberals.

Let me be more specific - if you vote for the PPC, you are voting for the Liberals.
 
Ribstaylor said:
I feel it was necessary. I didn't like the way he did it but it got enough of a buzz that it showed at least through media stories he was willing to meet in the middle ground, and oust trouble makers under the social conservative banner. Sloan would of consistently went against conservative talking points, and put a wrench into the wheel of the new leaders ability to form a party platform and message that stuck and resonated with voters. Sloan starting the Maverick party and moving to a new province to do it, I think is a major indicator that O'toole was correct in his decision.
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Likely some truth in that. Simply saying the Conservatives are becoming more and more progressive and less and less Conservative. Much of our population is simply too Liberal minded. Even many Conservative members are far from it really. Maybe one day true conservatism will come to Canada. Alternatively maybe the west will eventually separate after finally having enough…
 
A political system with so many parties is a part of the problem. A two or maybe three party system would give us far stronger party lines and better election results. Add to that the ability to vote provincially and federally would be a step ahead too.
 
G.Mitchell said:
Any hope for the Conservatives ended when they kicked Sloan to the curb. I don’t much care for the party any longer but a vote anywhere else puts the Libs that much closer to staying in power. I don’t like it. I’d rather vote differently. But given what is at stake I can live 4 years under a Conservative government far easier than another Lib government. Make no mistake Blair and sockboy want us fully disarmed and reliant upon them for every scrap they’ll throw our way. This is a precarious place we find ourselves in. Vote wisely.
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"Holding my nose and voting Conservative" has been the best (and arguably only) option for over a decade IMO.

Arctic said:
So, when does O'toole flaunt a dictionary in Trudeau's face, with the definition of "assault rifle", and educate the public that they've been hoodwinked again by the Liberals?
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Seriously, when he has more than a few weeks to make a real change in the public's understanding. I and everyone here would be very happy if he could accomplish that in a few weeks but honestly I see zero chance of that approach being successful.
 
PPC is the only option.

at this point it is very clear, by listening to oToole sell out conservatives, that he is the fake opposition.
anyone deluding themselves to try and believe otherwise is a danger to Canada at this point
 
m j said:
PPC is the only option.

at this point it is very clear, by listening to oToole sell out conservatives, that he is the fake opposition.
anyone deluding themselves to try and believe otherwise is a danger to Canada at this point
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It’s CPC for me, a vote for anybody else is a vote for the Liberals. People voting for this PPC, is simply a political suicide. You are part of the problem...sorry. You’ll berelegated to a small bunch of pissed off yahoos that will March on the street from time to time, to provide material for the Liberal media to say « look at these idiots....glad they’ll never get anything done.
 
G.Mitchell said:
Likely some truth in that. Simply saying the Conservatives are becoming more and more progressive and less and less Conservative. Much of our population is simply too Liberal minded. Even many Conservative members are far from it really. Maybe one day true conservatism will come to Canada. Alternatively maybe the west will eventually separate after finally having enough…
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I honestly think we need to separate Liberal from progressive. They are not the same ideology, and even though the liberal party of Canada is now not liberal but progressive we need to distinguish between them as they don't believe the same things. What I think we are seeing happening is the social conservative side of Canadian politics is getting older, and slowly dying out as young conservatives for the most part don't support their causes. As this side of the party shrinks, and Parties like the NDP or the Liberal party going further left and further progressive. We are getting a shift in votes from disenfranchised center, and liberal voters who no longer can vote for a progressive party. And shifting to the conservative party as they seem to now hold many of the ideals I would have considered liberal when I was a liberal 10 and 15 years ago. While many who think the shift to the left is a bad thing, I argue it's the natural course of politics. Demographics change, and societal issues change. With it parties shift and warp over time to offer constituents a platform that better suits the countries over all goals. Only those stuck in the past and fighting battles all ready lost can't see this as a good thing.
 
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