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They probably figured that with the rear of the bolt exposed it wouldn't make much difference protecting dust and small debris from blowing up against the side of the bolt through the ejection port. Also it adds more parts and cost.... might look "cool" but probably not worth the hassle. One less thing to do before folding the stock.

Good news is it looks like it will be partially covered when the stock is folded.... :)
 
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oh grass hopper....go back to being an armchair gun expert, if you have to ask questions like that you wouldnt understand low crawls or living in a hole in the ground..other than my heavy sniper rifles, all others have had ejection port covers, to keep garbage out of your action. if you just admire your guns in the glow of your fire place in the man cave, you wouldnt understand...lol
 
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It's amazing the cave men of yesteryear were able to fight with Lee Enfields in the muddy trenches of the first world war... I guess Sig doesn't get it.

Enjoy your new rifle and let us know if you have any failures down the road due to the lack of dust cover.
 
long bow said:
oh grass hopper....go back to being an armchair gun expert, if you have to ask questions like that you wouldnt understand low crawls or living in a hole in the ground..other than my heavy sniper rifles, all others have had ejection port covers, to keep garbage out of your action. if you just admire your guns in the glow of your fire place in the man cave, you wouldnt understand...lol
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Pretty much no bolt guns have this feature.

Perhaps you should ask yourself why that is.
 
Can-down said:
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It's amazing the cave men of yesteryear were able to fight with Lee Enfields in the muddy trenches of the first world war... I guess Sig doesn't get it.

Enjoy your new rifle and let us know if you have any failures down the road due to the lack of dust cover.
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Funny thing expert...those enfields in WW1 and 2 all came with a snap on canvass...you guessed it dust covers....Why do the military service rifle of today have....dust covers I just thought it a novel but ok idea
 
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Funny thing expert...those enfields in WW1 and 2 all came with a snap on canvass...you guessed it dust covers....Why do the military service rifle of today have....dust covers I just thought it a novel but ok idea
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Thanks I had never seen those canvas mud covers... makes sense.
I can see both sides of this one and understand your disappointment with Sig's decision to change their minds.... good news is it sounds like you have the brains to adapt and find a solution!
 
Got mine back out to the range on the weekend... and shot a few groups at 100yards. I was very impressed.

This group is Federal Power-Shok ($1.50/round)...


This group is PMC ($1/round)...


Interestingly, the PMC shifted point-of-impact up about an inch compared to the Federal. Both are around 150gr. But I sure can't complain about the sub-MOA groupings.
 
long bow said:
Funny thing expert...those enfields in WW1 and 2 all came with a snap on canvass...you guessed it dust covers....Why do the military service rifle of today have....dust covers I just thought it a novel but ok idea
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"Expert"

Pre 1906 manufactured Lee Metford and Lee Enfield (so called "Long Lee" and "Lee Enfield Carbines") rifles had steel "dust cover" bolt shrouds - as did Gew.98's and a whole host of similar time period rifles.

For some reason they didn't survive into the WW1 trench period on the Enfields, and didn't survive post war on the Gew.98's...
 
Virtual.Chris looking forward to seeing more results on the 308 with other ammo as well. Looks promising. I’ve been wanting this in 308 for some time now.

Petty posturing aside: Does else have anything to share about their 308 version?
 
HvacFridge Apprentice said:
Virtual.Chris looking forward to seeing more results on the 308 with other ammo as well. Looks promising. I’ve been wanting this in 308 for some time now.

Petty posturing aside: Does else have anything to share about their 308 version?
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I found a good price on a case (500rds) of the PMC so I’m unlikely to try any other ammo soon. I think the best thing you can do is buy a few boxes to see what it likes.

It would be good to hear from others as well.
 
I've handled one, but didn't shoot it. It is.... Jeff Cooper scout rifle logic, believe it or not ) It is very handy, very light, stock is very solid but it folds, but very solid. It aims as an AR and it shoulders as an AR. Trigger is decent, even nice. But it is not Trigger tech diamond or anything like that. Bolt is smooth, but not custom action smooth. Overall - you won't shoot it long range, you won't even shoot it medium range better than most traditional bolts, it looks like you won't enjoy shooting it prone - too light, too AR-shish. But it is a scout rifle - very light, very handy, close range snapshots off hand should be very enjoyable. This is 300 meters rifle, so 308 or 6.5 won't make a difference. It is all about light, handy, 4-5 inches group at 300m is plenty.
 
owlowl said:
I've handled one, but didn't shoot it. It is.... Jeff Cooper scout rifle logic, believe it or not ) It is very handy, very light, stock is very solid but it folds, but very solid. It aims as an AR and it shoulders as an AR. Trigger is decent, even nice. But it is not Trigger tech diamond or anything like that. Bolt is smooth, but not custom action smooth. Overall - you won't shoot it long range, you won't even shoot it medium range better than most traditional bolts, it looks like you won't enjoy shooting it prone - too light, too AR-shish. But it is a scout rifle - very light, very handy, close range snapshots off hand should be very enjoyable. This is 300 meters rifle, so 308 or 6.5 won't make a difference. It is all about light, handy, 4-5 inches group at 300m is plenty.
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Exactly why this rifle is on my “to buy” list.
 
I picked up a 308 and I am impressed! Shoots the 175-180 grain the best and had a second round impact at 950 yards Saturday.

Finding the perfect glass will be the issue.

I also think that mine has a 20 Moa rail on it. It does look to have a forward cant to it.
 
I just picked one up to play around with. I'll see if it sticks around since I have another two 6.5 CMs. From my reserach it looks like it has a 20 MOA rail, even though it's not advertised. I'm going to put a Bushnell LRHS 3-12 on mine.

Jamie said:
I picked up a 308 and I am impressed! Shoots the 175-180 grain the best and had a second round impact at 950 yards Saturday.

Finding the perfect glass will be the issue.

I also think that mine has a 20 Moa rail on it. It does look to have a forward cant to it.
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owlowl said:
I've handled one, but didn't shoot it. It is.... Jeff Cooper scout rifle logic, believe it or not ) It is very handy, very light, stock is very solid but it folds, but very solid. It aims as an AR and it shoulders as an AR. Trigger is decent, even nice. But it is not Trigger tech diamond or anything like that. Bolt is smooth, but not custom action smooth. Overall - you won't shoot it long range, you won't even shoot it medium range better than most traditional bolts, it looks like you won't enjoy shooting it prone - too light, too AR-shish. But it is a scout rifle - very light, very handy, close range snapshots off hand should be very enjoyable. This is 300 meters rifle, so 308 or 6.5 won't make a difference. It is all about light, handy, 4-5 inches group at 300m is plenty.
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I think that’s a very good assessment.
 
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