CZ 600 thoughts?

MilitaryCollectorMark said:
If they would do a lefty in 6.5x55 with blued finish I would probably be interested.
That was what CZ was/is known for. Nice wood stock, classic sporter. My CZ 527 is one example.
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It seems to me they are abandoning the neich they occupied in the market. To compete with other companies on the ever cheapening hunting rifles of other brands in the $800-$1500 like savage or ruger. It's a bold move, that has the opertunity to lose them a large chunk of their base costumers. Like I would just by a model 70 over these, I ha e no need or use for most the features added to these.

I don't need swappable barrels. I don't need it threaded for suppressors. I don't want a cheaper looking finish, and I certainly don't want plastic magazines. So ya these things are underwhelming.
 
at 11:00 minute bolt details and disassembly:

https://youtu.be/KyAQoGr9KwI?t=669

apparently Trail has a different bolt head, 3 lugs, all other cz 600 have 6 lugs.

Ejector is a passive, spring loaded to RETRACT but the actual ejection force comes from hitting bolt stop at the bottom through a link attached to bolt head. So it is passive rod ejector coming from the inside of the bolt head and not a traditional blade which is fixed to a receiver.
 
That bolt stop pin is taking too much - the bolt is riding on it, the ejector bar hits it and it stops the bolt from coming off. All that every cycle and its all on a single spring with a bolt release button exposed to outside.
 
I wonder why they didn’t go with a blade ejector like the ARC Nucleus


Cool to see a new CRF design on a mass produced rifle regardless
 
conor_90 said:
I wonder why they didn’t go with a blade ejector like the ARC Nucleus


Cool to see a new CRF design on a mass produced rifle regardless
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Cost. In ARC Nucleus ejector blade is a separate part, you also need a small screw and a thread to hold it in place and, a machining job to cut the opening for it to fit. And all that has to align with a bolthead cut as the bolt rides back. Nucleus rides on rails with its locking lugs, CZ 600 is a "fat bolt" design with lugs not expanding outside the bolt body diameter, so it rides with more slack, especially rotation wise to the receiver and it would be harder to align fixed ejector to the moving body. With the ejector inside a bolt head CZ solved a lot of problems for a very cheap.
 
The Kurgan said:
I would bet the 2MOA guarantee is due to use of 556/x39 milspec fodder. The other models are guanteeing sub-MOA with quality match-grade ammo.
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This is surely the case

My 527 is sub moa with S&B factory ammo and a 2.5-3 moa rifle all day with surplus and non corrosive steel case
 
Brutus said:
Polymer mags quite often suck a$$.

The Trail variant at $1400 u deserve better.
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Not in the case of Tikka, Anschutz, etc. My bet is that CZ carefully took design and quality into consideration. As much as I love my all-steel and walnut rifles, plastics are here to stay in modern designs, and that includes quality rifles. I personally much prefer hinged floorplates, and with the exception of the CZ 527 and Tikka, I don't fuss with mags anymore. The market, however, seems to like detachable mags and gimmicky doo-dads.
 
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The Kurgan said:
Not in the case of Tikka, Anschutz, etc. My bet is that CZ carefully took design and quality into consideration. As much as I love my all-steel and walnut rifles, plastics are here to stay in modern designs, and that includes quality rifles. I personally much prefer hinged floorplates, and with the exception of the CZ 527 and Tikka, I don't fuss with mags anymore. The market, however, seems to like detachable mags and gimmicky doo-dads.
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A detachable mag lets you prove the rifle safe a lot more quickly than one that requires the rounds be individually unloaded, or loaded again. Likewise it lets you go from safe to fully-loaded with the click of a magazine going in.

Thumbs up for letting the user add rounds through the top.

The CZ Trail using the STANAG magazine format lets you pick any quality and style of those that suits your fancy. As an aside, a low-profile 5-rounder in that format would do well staying out of the way and not projecting under the rifle, and maybe even offer you your hinged floorplate. A commodity interface lets a maker sell the same magazine for a lot of different rifles and creates more room for niche styles to be viable in the marketplace.

I'd have been happier seeing STANAG across the whole line. The Lux model being able to accept assorted aftermarket magazines would have been ideal.
 
A mag dump with a hinged floorplate is just as fast. Loading a 5-round box mag is fast enough for a hunting rifle in my opinion--and you can't lose it. If you need more than 5-rounds in a hunting situation, you need to go to shooting school, lol :). But, as I always say, YMMV.
 
CZ600 Lux appears to be more streamlined with flush box mag, Ranger has bigger but protruding box mag. 557 Lux is a floorplate magainze. Does it matter for you?
600 will have easy change barrels, calibers, probably after market barrels. 557s are traditional barrel setup. Does it matter?
557s are out of production. CZ 600 will be produced for at least some time going forward. Do you care?
557s are push feed, 600 is a controlled feed sort of.
Ranger has pic rail from factory. Luxes do not. Do you mind?

CZ 600 was just announced. They say 2022 availability, so say at best summer. 557s are probably out of stock in most places.
 
The Trail looks super cool IMO, though it kinda sucks for us that it doesn't use proprietary mags. Interested to see how it performs next to a 16.5" MRX Bison.
 
Northern Shooter said:
When are these expected to hit local retailers? I'm really undecided right now between a 557 Lux (.308), a 557 Ranger or a CZ600 Lux.
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I don't think you can do much better than a 557 Lux. Smooth and refined out-of-the box. Nice wood, nicely blued, tight tolerances and accurate. Push feed vs CRF debates are almost akin to a bear defense thread. I have both, and the 557 is the best of all my *modern hunting rifles. The Brno 21 (CRF) is the best of all my CRF rifles, and probably the best factory Sporter ever made. The 600 Lux looks very nice too, but finishing will be non-traditional and you won't get a metal floorplate. I will probably pick-up a Trail for its modularity and easy switch barrel feature--if 7.62x39 becomes available.

I called Wolverine. They said around June for model 600 availability.
 
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Interesting move on CZ's part. They are obviously catering to the younger crowd.
They have saved me time and money, as I will NEVER buy another new CZ again.
I have owned BRNO models 21, zg47, 600, 601, #1-2e-3-4-5, 468, cz 452, and even a 455. Each "modernization" of the previous model seems to be less elegant and refined.
This is not an improved product, it is the company reducing their production costs.
 
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