Cull Buck Down

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Cull buck down. After 19 days trying to lineup one of the 2 five year old 5x4 deer on the property (see my other post “White Tailed Deer: Using Trail Cams to Manage your Herd”) I figured enough was enough and decided to take this 215 pound 3 1/2 year old 4x4 meat buck. He probably would have put another 30 pounds on and added some mass to the rack over the next couple years but not something that I wanted to keep around the property as he was a bit of a fighter with that broken tine as well as having a weak scoring rack as an adult deer.

To highlight how rare it is for a fully mature whitetail buck to come in during the day, in 10 weeks of monitoring my spot, I had only 3 occasions of the big 9 pointers breaking trend and coming in during legal light and only 2 of which were in season, even though nearly every other night they would show at between 23:00 - 04:00 to feed on their favorite food - field peas.

He met his end with a 165 grain Federal premium copper bullet fired within the Cabelas Zonz blind from a Weatherby Lazergaurd in 30-06 caliber at 20 yards. Bullet was a pass through double lung shot and the buck ran less than 100 yards. He yielded 70 pounds of meat. I used the gutless method and deboned him using the hide as well as a tarp to keep my processing area clean. Tenderloins were removed last through a small incision behind the rib cage by the hip.

I probably could have ended up taking one of the older deer had I kept on it until the season closure December 2nd. However, I’d prefer to give the big 5x4’s a chance to survive this season and maybe they stay in the area through winter. I will be awaiting spring melt to search for their shed antlers, maybe I can see what they score. Next season as 6 year olds they should have their largest set of antlers and be at the peak of their prime. I’m hoping they throw some kickers and non typical points as they age.


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Deanx;[URL="tel:18453839" said:
18453839[/URL]]That's a weak scoring rack?

It is when you are a fantasizing wannabe herd manager on your acreage you try to convince others to help you pay for fencing to high fence them in to think you are the owner of wild ungulates. I'd have used the term farmer instead of manager but that would be an insult to every real farmer in the country.
 
Well, it certainly sounds as if you have taken the fun and excitement out of the hunting experience and reducing it to a numbers game as so many others are doing.
 
Well, it certainly sounds as if you have taken the fun and excitement out of the hunting experience and reducing it to a numbers game as so many others are doing.

100%! I'd love to see how they manage "their herds" and "cull" bucks without bait and food plots?!!:confused:

Spend enough hours over a bait pile and you're bound to put large pieces of bone on the wall and realistically who cares? V:I:

Antler size is a poor measure of the quality of the hunting experience in my opinion...
 
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I don't have a history with Umchorn so take these points as disinterested and uninvested comments
1) That's a great buck and congratulations on that.
2) Why would anyone describe it as anything less than a magnificent animal that it was an honour to harvest? Frankly, I'm embarrassed for you.
3) How could you only get 70 lbs of meat? I would think 100 lbs boneless for an animal this class.
4) Do you think maybe the nocturnal bucks have you patterned and you should set up between their bedding area and food source rather than on the pea field?
5) If the day should come when I give a #### about rack scores, that's when I stop hunting deer.
 
How is it hunting when you manage the animals all year long and then shoot the ones you like or in this case, the one you didn’t like? I don’t get it…

Patrick
 
He met his end with a 165 grain Federal premium copper bullet fired within the Cabelas Zonz blind from a Weatherby Lazergaurd in 30-06 caliber...

Can you tell me more about what you were wearing? What brand of scope and binoculars? What brand of boots? Any cool gadgets employed in the "culling" of that "weak-racked" buck?
 
First off…. Tough crowd hahah. Secondly, I think the op has reduced the hunt to only numbers, which is unfortunate.

I do play numbers a little bit here. I will pass on 130” deer, but certainly not for them being a “cull” buck or only good as a “assuage buck”. I watch “my” deer herd here all year long. I pattern them from field time. This field time is a mix of looking for sheds, cruising around back roads with my spotting scope, coyote hunting and some hiking back in to watch bedding areas. I have a decent idea of what is in the area for bucks/doe counts and I contribute to their numbers in my fantasy land thinking by keeping the predators off their arse in the off seasons. In my eyes, those 120-140” bucks will never be 160-170 if I take them out now. I try to keep my composure until the season winner pops out. Keeps the fun up a little bit. Especially when three or four of us play the game like this. We always get a good group laugh at the guy who was excited by the 120” and pulls the trigger knowing the big boy is around somewhere. To us, it’s kind of like adding 100.00 to your favourite sports. Ups the ante for seasons bragging rights. Numbers can be fun too.
 
Can you tell me more about what you were wearing? What brand of scope and binoculars? What brand of boots? Any cool gadgets employed in the "culling" of that "weak-racked" buck?

Nah, he doesn't have those guys' names on his tarp.
 
That deer doesn't look older than 3.5 years. Rack never made it to its full potential. I don't know how the op figured that was an underdeveloped rack. The deer is still a baby. I don't know why people make excuses for the animals they shoot. Article should have said I got impatient and shot a nice young deer anyways!!
 
Wow, amazing how someone can get slagged for there choice or reason for taking the said animal.

We are individuals and we make choices as to what animal we may or may not take.

I personally grew up eating so much venison that I am basically done with it. I have basically stopped hunting due to the unruly so called arm chair hunters that come from the city.

If I do go again there is only one animal I will take, he better have a big rack. It is not about I paid for my tag I shoots the deer. I would rather shoot a doe versus a young buck. That is my choice.

So cut the guy some slack.

JMO
 
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