Why are Win 94's so expensive these days?
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maple_leaf_eh
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There is a false sense of high retained value in the box-car quantities of commemoratives out there. Without a perfect box and papers, it is just a pretty lever action. Even then, I consider Winchester commemoratives to be the Franklin Mint equivalent in firearms.
Here's a post I made last year called ...... "you get what you pay for"
I was just checking the going price of Model 94 Winchesters on the "EE" and I am appalled !
Has the old saying " you only get what you pay for" fell out of favour?
They'r practically giving them away !
At those prices , I couldn't help but feel there was something wrong with all those rifles.
It's not just the "EE" , the whole internet pricing has gone mad !
I want a good one . Crank up them prices boys. I don't mind taking out a second mortgage for a well used lever gun , but nobody wants to buy something questionable because it didn't cost enough ! You only get what you pay for...... right?
I was just checking the going price of Model 94 Winchesters on the "EE" and I am appalled !
Has the old saying " you only get what you pay for" fell out of favour?
They'r practically giving them away !
At those prices , I couldn't help but feel there was something wrong with all those rifles.
It's not just the "EE" , the whole internet pricing has gone mad !
I want a good one . Crank up them prices boys. I don't mind taking out a second mortgage for a well used lever gun , but nobody wants to buy something questionable because it didn't cost enough ! You only get what you pay for...... right?
freddyfour
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I know I feel pretty silly, used to have a pile of them a few years ago. Sold them for a fraction of what they are going for today.
Brutus
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I place a huge part of this on the recent OIC.
Prices for all lever rifles started to spiral upwards after 1 May. Rimfire as well as centerfire. In reality they were incrementally creeping upwards anyways however announcement of the ban gave it a huge goose.
Now people are trying to dump thier semi auto PCCs with recent fear of loss to government.
Prices for all lever rifles started to spiral upwards after 1 May. Rimfire as well as centerfire. In reality they were incrementally creeping upwards anyways however announcement of the ban gave it a huge goose.
Now people are trying to dump thier semi auto PCCs with recent fear of loss to government.
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look what Dirty Harry did to the S&W 44 YIKES ! prices never really did come down.
nomad 68
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Had a few 94's over the years. Just couldn't warm up to them long enough to keep one long term. I don't think I ever paid more than$300 or got more than $400 for one. Regardless of supply or demand, I would never pay a premium for one. As for the new ones, just having the miroku name means it's gonna be pricey.
What boggles my mind is that a good pre 64 model 94 may sell for $700 and a 1964-1968 model 94 (the absolute worst) may sell for $600. To many gun enthusiasts now a 94 is a 94 and the older vintage rifles command very little premium. Rambling around gunshows 25 years ago a nice pre 64 might have gone for $500 and a post 64 would have brought $250 tops. Times have changed.
Brutus
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Same as recent prices of Lee Enfields, Mosins, Mausers, Garands, etc. Declining supply, ever increasing demand.
This is a very old lesson.
Read all 50 post, lots have mentioned TV shows/movies having effects on sales...
Couldn't agree more.
To me that's just another form of "marketing a product".
Look how they had almost every actor on TV or in the movies smoking a cigarette.
Talk about marketing !
Supply and demand, maybe...more so everyday I guess.
Shows like Gunsmoke, Rifleman, Longmire and Yellowstone yes.
Love all levers, must have to any collector.
Couldn't agree more.
To me that's just another form of "marketing a product".
Look how they had almost every actor on TV or in the movies smoking a cigarette.
Talk about marketing !
Supply and demand, maybe...more so everyday I guess.
Shows like Gunsmoke, Rifleman, Longmire and Yellowstone yes.
Love all levers, must have to any collector.
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C'mon Man, maybe I grew up watching wrong TV and playing incorrect games in the 'Ol Orchard lol...... Grew up in a meat hunting family, bolts only and for a wet behind the ears 13 yr/old kid like me, a Ruger #1 in .270Win. All the while my Grandpappy's very early 1894 in 38-55 was what I coveted and was almost mocked when I requested it back in the day and they threw it at me like it was a rusty sewer pipe. Guessing the 38-55 was not a fan fav out west. Alongside my Grandpa's is a a newer 30-30 Winny, the .450 Thumper and my all time fav discovery, a 1990 7-30 Waters. Absolute laser beam, really enjoyed busting that cherry after it sat in a box for 31 years, very underrated cal........
Can't imagine this world without levers and for Gawd's sakes the 94.......
Can't imagine this world without levers and for Gawd's sakes the 94.......
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freddyfour
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- Brant County, Ontario
Dak47, what is the details on that top Saddle Ring Carbine?
Couldn't agree more. But that's going to be the nature of increased demand from a less-informed, less-discerning market of buyers.
If you're buying an 1894 "BECAUSE YELLOWSTONE", why would you care about things like fit, finish, materials and function?
What's the saying? Don't cry over spilled milk....
Circa 1980 I came across and purchased a 1957 mint 94 in 30-30 paid $450 which was a high price at the time. When I say mint I mean like the day it came off assembly - perfect - 100% - I'm sure never fired. A couple of years ago I was offered $750 which was huge at the time and I took the deal. Should have kept it. With today's prices and demand it would be an easy $2K plus. Another saying... hindsight is 20-20.
What about the crazy prices on Ruger Deerfields & Carbines?
Circa 1980 I came across and purchased a 1957 mint 94 in 30-30 paid $450 which was a high price at the time. When I say mint I mean like the day it came off assembly - perfect - 100% - I'm sure never fired. A couple of years ago I was offered $750 which was huge at the time and I took the deal. Should have kept it. With today's prices and demand it would be an easy $2K plus. Another saying... hindsight is 20-20.
What about the crazy prices on Ruger Deerfields & Carbines?
What baffles me is the price, of in terrible shape old 94's with screwed up stocks, cracks,missing screws, damaged crowns, and suspect rifling that guys have for over $1400.00
I have been looking for a while, for a nice 30-30 with a hex, or octagon barrel, full mag tube and crescent or shot gun butt plate. A shooter, as it will be my saddle rifle, I don't care if it has been refinished or not, but I am not going to pay $2000+ for one, that is for sure.
I can buy a brand new deluxe for that price.
I wish I would have bought one a few years ago when there were lots for sale and for decent price.
I know everyone has seen the EE adds by one particular CGN'r for mostly old winchesters that his prices are always way to high, not sure if he has actually ever sold one, maybe to some unsuspecting guy, or a guy that just has to have that one or not, but I like to look at his adds for a good laugh,
I have been looking for a while, for a nice 30-30 with a hex, or octagon barrel, full mag tube and crescent or shot gun butt plate. A shooter, as it will be my saddle rifle, I don't care if it has been refinished or not, but I am not going to pay $2000+ for one, that is for sure.
I can buy a brand new deluxe for that price.
I wish I would have bought one a few years ago when there were lots for sale and for decent price.
I know everyone has seen the EE adds by one particular CGN'r for mostly old winchesters that his prices are always way to high, not sure if he has actually ever sold one, maybe to some unsuspecting guy, or a guy that just has to have that one or not, but I like to look at his adds for a good laugh,
