Reloading shotgun hulls?

I have a question...I have a feeling that the answer is no, but since my reloading book has only just shipped today and I won't be able to check in it right away...

Would there be a primer, powder, shot combination that one could use in 12, 20 and .410 with proper hull and wad?
 
huntingfish said:
I have a question...I have a feeling that the answer is no, but since my reloading book has only just shipped today and I won't be able to check in it right away...

Would there be a primer, powder, shot combination that one could use in 12, 20 and .410 with proper hull and wad?
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Primer yes. I use winchester 209 in everything
Powder no for all three and as you know shot is shot so yes there

Do you know anyone close reloading shotgun that will allow you to watch and discuss
 
3macs1 said:
A sizemaster is exactly what I would buy if I was in his shoes since eventually he will want the auto primer and collect resizer
But WTF do I know only have almost 2 dozen MEC of all gauges and models. Full sets of jr's, sizemasters and 9000G including 16ga and a few steel masters for 10ga and 12ga 3" and 3 1/2"
Cheers
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You really need to step up and round those Mecs out at a even 2 dozen. Times 2 on the auto primer and collect sizer great features that work well .
 
You can cover 12 16 20 and 28 with some powders but the 410 is a different animal that require specific powders 110 410 2400 296 . The larger gauges will crossover with green dot , unique, 700 ,800 , etc but use your new loading book to see what coverage works. Remember some powders may do it but are not great choices . unique and green dot will come closes to do it all within reason. Do your homework and keep it safe and simple.
 
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I've been reloading shotgun shells since 1964.
I would suggest that you get a Mec junior mk5 shotgun press.
I reload 410,20's and 12's.
With never a problem.
I had 2 lee's loadall.
You won't be happy with these [no adjustment]
By the way I have loaded thousands of shells.
OLD TIMER 75
 
warzaw said:
You can cover 12 16 20 and 28 with some powders but the 410 is a different animal that require specific powders 110 410 2400 296 . The larger gauges will crossover with green dot , unique, 700 ,800 , etc but use your new loading book to see what coverage works. Remember some powders may do it but are not great choices . unique and green dot will come closes to do it all within reason. Do your homework and keep it safe and simple.
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12ga?? some of those are not usually used in 12ga very often or common unique as an example uses 16,20 and 28 yes but who uses it in 12ga
 
I did not say they were great choices but they work so so in a pinch . Unique will work in a 12 gauge but with a large charge my buddy has used it in a pinch not great but it works . They call it Unique because it will load in almost anything 12 16 20 28 9mm 40S&W 45ACP . Nothing is perfect but Uni is one excellent powder.
 
cosmic said:
OP - The Hodgdon website had a very good section on shotgun reloading recipes. Get going....
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I actually went on their site and did one search. Oof. All the suggested powders are "out of stock" at the moment. I understand what you guys mean now.

Still, I guess now would be the time to buy at a lower price, no? Since everyone is telling everyone else to "wait for the situation to go back to it's original state of plentifulness" ;-)
 
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warzaw said:
You can cover 12 16 20 and 28 with some powders but the 410 is a different animal that require specific powders 110 410 2400 296 . The larger gauges will crossover with green dot , unique, 700 ,800 , etc but use your new loading book to see what coverage works. Remember some powders may do it but are not great choices . unique and green dot will come closes to do it all within reason. Do your homework and keep it safe and simple.
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I'm guessing a pound of powder for .410 can go a looooong way lol. Especially if loading 2.5" hulls.

David
 
warzaw said:
I did not say they were great choices but they work so so in a pinch . Unique will work in a 12 gauge but with a large charge my buddy has used it in a pinch not great but it works . They call it Unique because it will load in almost anything 12 16 20 28 9mm 40S&W 45ACP . Nothing is perfect but Uni is one excellent powder.
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I agree on unique. All I use in 28, 20 and 16 :)
 
huntingfish said:
I'm guessing a pound of powder for .410 can go a looooong way lol. Especially if loading 2.5" hulls.

David
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You do not have to guess - there is 7,000 grains in one pound (in 16 ounces). Divide your recipe load into 7,000 - that is how many you get, if you do not spill stuff like I do ... 20 grains per load = 350 rounds from a pound. 10 grains per load, is 700 rounds. And so on. IF the maker accurately loaded the jug. IF you are accurately metering it out.
 
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Potashminer said:
You do not have to guess - there is 7,000 grains in one pound (in 16 ounces). Divide your recipe load into 7,000 - that is how many you get, if you do not spill stuff like I do ... 20 grains per load = 350 rounds from a pound. 10 grains per load, is 700 rounds. And so on. IF the maker accurately loaded the jug. IF you are accurately metering it out.
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think I drop 16 to get the 1200 fps in the aa with the 296
 
110 for the 410 was available from Budget yesterday . Even shotguns powders have best applications. While the Hodgdon data has a lot of out of stock, you don't go there for buying powder, it's an American site anyway. You go there to look at data .
 
Hodgdon never was a manufacture of powder aside from the early pyrodex and that plant got blown up . They are and always have been a packaging company . They packaged surplus powder for years until supplies ran out . Their powder comes from Europe and I believe Canada at one time not sure about now. Most US manufacturing is military based and the domestic market is a sideline. If one didn't stock up it may be a while before things get better.
 
kevin g: Unique/Universal is my go-to powder for 12 gauge, 1 1/8 oz. field loads, too. For hard hitting 1 oz loads, I use Super Handicap. Easily duplicates factory 12 gauge, 1 oz Light Handicap load. For all other 3/4 oz., and especially 7/8 oz. 12 gauge loads, Clays is my choice. Have used other powders in and around this burning rate, ie: Red Dot(good performer). But like Clays. Soft recoiling and performs well.

huntingfish: I agree with the others. For 12/20/16 gauge, Unique/Universal works well across the board. Have loaded all three gauges with these two(essentially the same powder and burning rate. I use the same load data for either). Though I tend to prefer 800-X in 20 gauge. Your powder choice may often be driven by the shot payload...light to heavy... but hard to go wrong with Unique/Universal.

Most shooters/reloaders have their own preferences in powder or other components. You will likely end up experimenting with several different combinations, before finding the ones your guns prefer.

For shot, I've found that #7.5 works best(at least in my opinion) for most small game, ie: rabbit, grouse, squirrel, etc. Patterns and performs well at the close ranges this game is often taken. Next choice: #6 shot.

Al
 
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From Post #58 - will spin you around, like it did me, to discover that you have to take into account where a writer is from - Britain and USA, for example, have different shot sizing - so what one calls "#6" is not the same name for that size shot in another country. No clue why they do that. Can find charts on Internet to compare shot sizing names used in different countries. Is likely small potatoes, I guess. My desire for my 28 gauges is to use .10" diameter shot - has different names for "shot size" depending which country it comes from. Probably like older shotshell boxes that listed "dram equivalent" for the powder loading - I do not think is used any more, but for some reason, shotgunners wanted to know the equivalent amount of some unknown-to-me black powder that used to be be used in shot shells, that gave equivalent velocity to the shot. I think "modern" stuff just tells you the velocity...

And there is some undefined dividing line between "game" size and "target" size shot - for target size, there is 1/2 shot size greater or lesser sorting tolerance. For game size, is a full shot size - plus or minus - allowed. So a bag of premium #4 shot (presumably a "game size") will have #5, #4 and #3 sized shot in there - all perfectly acceptable and within tolerance - so shot is NOT all the same size, in a bag.
 
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Potashminer said:
From Post #58 - will spin you around, like it did me, to discover that you have to take into account where a writer is from - Britain and USA, for example, have different shot sizing - so what one calls "#6" is not the same name for that size shot in another country. No clue why they do that. Can find charts on Internet to compare shot sizing names used in different countries. Is likely small potatoes, I guess. My desire for my 28 gauges is to use .10" diameter shot - has different names for "shot size" depending which country it comes from. Probably like older shotshell boxes that listed "dram equivalent" for the powder loading - I do not think is used any more, but for some reason, shotgunners wanted to know the equivalent amount of some unknown-to-me black powder that used to be be used in shot shells, that gave equivalent velocity to the shot. I think "modern" stuff just tells you the velocity...

And there is some undefined dividing line between "game" size and "target" size shot - for target size, there is 1/2 shot size greater or lesser sorting tolerance. For game size, is a full shot size - plus or minus - allowed. So a bag of premium #4 shot (presumably a "game size") will have #5, #4 and #3 sized shot in there - all perfectly acceptable and within tolerance - so shot is NOT all the same size, in a bag.
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I have honestly never seen that in my life but only used lawrence or Hummason shot and have it all from BB to 12

?? where do you get 7 shot in canada for .10 how about 7 1/2 at 9.5
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