SOLVED!-Winchester 94 Canadian Centennial with brass? plated receiver
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okcorral1881
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If it’s brass anodized then it’s a Centennial 66…. I am more familiar with the Canadian Centennial 67. Nice rifle.
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So far, our research mentions some "commemorative 94 receivers" were brass/bronze plated, but no mention of Canadian Centennials being done this way. (See pics above i post #1)
The rifle I have is most definitely an 1867-1967 Canadian Centennial carbine, duly marked and inscribed with maple leaves, the same as the carbine I have.
Somebody, somewhere must know something about this one. ????
The tang is much brighter brassy colour and the screws and pins have a brassy halo around them.
The rifle I have is most definitely an 1867-1967 Canadian Centennial carbine, duly marked and inscribed with maple leaves, the same as the carbine I have.
Somebody, somewhere must know something about this one. ????
The tang is much brighter brassy colour and the screws and pins have a brassy halo around them.
Yes. They were black chrome plated in the original issue. I have a carbine that has seen use, and there is no evidence of brass plating underneath the black chrome, so I guess it leaves one to think that it was plated with brass after the black chrome was removed?
My thinking is that in post 64' Winchester started casting receivers with sintered metal, problem was that they wouldn't take bluing like a forged one. Re-bluing would have a very noticeable purple tint and finishes ,if gun was somewhat neglected flaked off regularly. It is recommended to avoid that serial # range from 2.5mil-5.1mil for that reason. Having the reciever plated,brass,nickle, gold, chrome would be a better alternative as I think that Winchester later iron plated recievers to take normal bluing.
Yes, that's certainly a problem with blued receivers in that era. Cdn Centennials were sent out with black chrome plating. I'm not sure why this particular one is brass plated, though. Plus, these rifles' serial numbers don't go along with the standard Winchester offerings. For example, one of the four I just bought is a Cdn Centennial rifle with a 4 digit sn. The carbine in question is a 5 digit.
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Mystery solved! Late in 1967, Cochrane and Dunlop Ltd bought a quantity of Canadian Centennials was purchased, and a number of these were disassembled, the Black chrome plating on the receiver removed and were plated with brass (or bronze),
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Should have stayed with the black chrome instead. Replace that stamped shell lifter for a solid one.
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That's good to know.
I've owned a couple of '66 Centennials, but have not ever come across the Canadian '67 versions over the years.Credit to gunner buddy Deaner who stayed awake all last night researching this "short rifle".
He found an ad for one on auction, and that contained the info about the brass plating. Apparently only a few were made up. ("Few" being 2 or 3 thousand)
Copied from the ad:
Winchester Canadian Centennial Commemorative rifle in 30-30 with a 6+1 ammo capacity and a 26? octagon barrel. Serial #17128. This lever action rifle is in excellent condition, unfired with minimal wear to finish. The stock has a few scratches but retains most of the original glossy finish. Butt plate has a few small spots of finish loss/scratches. The factory engraved receiver with maple leaves. Rear adjustable sight. Crisp trigger pull and tight action. Spotless rifled bore. Marks on the rifle are as follows: (BACKSTRAP) “CANADIAN CENTENNIAL 67” (RECEIVER BOTTOM) “17128” (BARREL TOP) “PW” (BARREL LEFT) “WINCHESTER MADE IN U.S.A. 30-30” (BARREL RIGHT) “CANADIAN CENTENNIAL 1867-1967”. In addition to the standard Centennial '67, some special ones were produced. Late in 1967, Cochrane and Dunlop Ltd., represented by Mr. Ed French, purchased a quantity of Canadian Centennials. A number of these guns were disassembled and the receivers gold plated. When the guns were reassembled, the barrel rolls were filled with gold paint and the stocks were branded. A maple leaf over a banner saying "1867 Canadian Centennial 1967" was branded on the butt end of the stock. The serial numbers of these guns were not recorded and the exact number of guns gold plated and or branded is unkown. This rifle has a hang tag which seems to corroborate this information. The tag states the number produced was 1000 in Canada and 2000 in USA. See photos for more details on condition. Please check the shipping details in our terms and conditions. Blackwell Auctions holds a Federal Firearms License (FFL). All firearms: pistol, handgun, shotgun & rifle transactions will be conducted in accordance with local, state and Federal laws, without exception. Please be aware of your state's laws on high capacity magazines.
He found an ad for one on auction, and that contained the info about the brass plating. Apparently only a few were made up. ("Few" being 2 or 3 thousand)
Copied from the ad:
Winchester Canadian Centennial Commemorative rifle in 30-30 with a 6+1 ammo capacity and a 26? octagon barrel. Serial #17128. This lever action rifle is in excellent condition, unfired with minimal wear to finish. The stock has a few scratches but retains most of the original glossy finish. Butt plate has a few small spots of finish loss/scratches. The factory engraved receiver with maple leaves. Rear adjustable sight. Crisp trigger pull and tight action. Spotless rifled bore. Marks on the rifle are as follows: (BACKSTRAP) “CANADIAN CENTENNIAL 67” (RECEIVER BOTTOM) “17128” (BARREL TOP) “PW” (BARREL LEFT) “WINCHESTER MADE IN U.S.A. 30-30” (BARREL RIGHT) “CANADIAN CENTENNIAL 1867-1967”. In addition to the standard Centennial '67, some special ones were produced. Late in 1967, Cochrane and Dunlop Ltd., represented by Mr. Ed French, purchased a quantity of Canadian Centennials. A number of these guns were disassembled and the receivers gold plated. When the guns were reassembled, the barrel rolls were filled with gold paint and the stocks were branded. A maple leaf over a banner saying "1867 Canadian Centennial 1967" was branded on the butt end of the stock. The serial numbers of these guns were not recorded and the exact number of guns gold plated and or branded is unkown. This rifle has a hang tag which seems to corroborate this information. The tag states the number produced was 1000 in Canada and 2000 in USA. See photos for more details on condition. Please check the shipping details in our terms and conditions. Blackwell Auctions holds a Federal Firearms License (FFL). All firearms: pistol, handgun, shotgun & rifle transactions will be conducted in accordance with local, state and Federal laws, without exception. Please be aware of your state's laws on high capacity magazines.
okcorral1881
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