This is not the same. At all. These companies aren’t producing this brass because these cartridges are obsolete.
are we enough mature to talk about the 375 ruger?
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This is not the same. At all. These companies aren’t producing this brass because these cartridges are obsolete.
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If he wanted to be pedantic (and god knows he does) I think GH could suggest that the design is obsolete not the calibres which are still wildly popular in this country and presumably others
Is redundancy also bad now? What happened to “two is one, one is none”
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Is redundancy also bad now? What happened to “two is one, one is none”
I think you are confusing "obsolete design" with "unavailable"
Brass and ammunition for belted cartridges is available. People will still buy rifles and ammo for them. People will still shoot moose and deer with them. But the case design is mostly redundant and obsolete.
ADG and Peterson haven't designed cartridges but Lapua has and they haven't included a redundant belt or with a long tapered case like the H&H in any recent designs. Why would they? They know redundant belted cases are obsolete and no reason to pursue such a design.
Some people seem to get upset when the obvious is pointed out to them about their favorite cartridge having an obsolete case design, but I don't know why. If you enjoy shooting and hunting with a particular cartridge then just continue doing so. Superior cartridges and designs are available but if it doesn't matter if you are happy with what you have.
In theory perhaps, but it doesn't do anything the H&H won't do.
From your link:
Definition of obsolete (Entry 1 of 2)
1a: no longer in use or no longer useful
an obsolete word
of a kind or style no longer current : OLD-FASHIONED
an obsolete technology
There is no doubt that the H&H case design is "of a kind or style no longer current"
The H&H may be old fashioned, but it is very much in current use and obviously not obsolete.
Sure it does. The Ruger will fit into a wider variety of standard length action rifles.
My latest 375. Another hole in my head. But for less then the cost of a Tikka T3 I couldn’t leave without it.
Nice Sako.
I have the AV FibreClass McMillan stocked version without sights in 375 H&H
Don't need it but a Sako in 375 is a nice rifle to have just because....LOL
Like conor_90 says.."lots of gun for the money"
Nice Sako.
I have the AV FibreClass McMillan stocked version without sights in 375 H&H
Don't need it but a Sako in 375 is a nice rifle to have just because....LOL
Like conor_90 says.."lots of gun for the money"
The late Joe Bishop, literally hunted the world over with a pair of Sako Fiberclass rifles in 375 H&H and 7MM Remington Magnum. He could use whatever he wanted to hunt with. I’ve seen his gun collection. It is jaw dropping.
Those fiberclass rifles are nice alright. A bit punishing in 375 especially with that hard rubber pad. I have one in 416 Rem too. Unfired when I bought it. Remains so. I don’t go out of my way to get a headache much anymore.
I used all the money I saved to buy a new mcmillan and oem SAKO peep for mine. I don’t know if I’ve ever had a rifle I liked more. Still need a fitting scope on it.
Mine is in the obsolete 338 wm; probably don’t need that either right
I used all the money I saved to buy a new mcmillan and oem SAKO peep for mine. I don’t know if I’ve ever had a rifle I liked more. Still need a fitting scope on it.
Mine is in the obsolete 338 wm; probably don’t need that either right
It's got a belt so it's obsolete
I like a .375 for moose hunting out of my boat. Have had a few including a fiberclass, not sure why I sold it. My current rendition has the obsolete taper blown out, doesn’t add much capacity but looks modern. It also wears a belt and a double radius shoulder, both superfluous but hey, it looks cool. 375 wby.
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What has it been...15 years? So far the evidence shows that mostly we are not.
It's a good cartridge. Performs as it should. That being said, the worst jam I ever had in my life was with a 375 Ruger that caught the bullet on the feed ramp and smashed it down into the case and bound up the action. Is that the cartridge's fault? Probably not, but of course it happened as I was cycling the action for a follow up shot on my cape buffalo. But I've heard of bad misfeeds (worse actually) using the H&H.
So, yeah, it's good, but if it was so damned revolutionary then wouldn't more people be chambering for it?
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Just curious, what bullet? I've heard of this with 'flatter' nose bullets and it happened to me with a 350gr RN Woodleigh that was flattened in the magazine from recoil. Never had a problem with TTSX or even with the 300gr. Hornady RNs that I shoot for practice while scrambling around the hills.
very strange unless a long seating as the 2 bullets are really similar in shape at least the ones i still have. i do think the interbond 300 gr rn was a great bullet as well.
very good last question, for the cape buffalo no experiences from me just the little tiny dwarf forest one and the western africa ones ... the more nasty i ve heard were the forest ones and i do believe it ...
now if i remember your story happened in zimbabwe and there is a chance old uncle bob was responsible lol ... more seriously it can happen to any actions or bullet/caliber combi.
So, to answer the original question: no, obviously not.
I've never owned a .375 Ruger, have sold most of my .375 H&H's, and likely won't buy more. If I do ever buy another .375, it would unquestionably be an H&H; the main reasons would be nostalgia and familiarity.
The main reason for not buying the Ruger would be simple; pulling one out of a guncase, whether at the range or in the field, would carry the risk of igniting another one of these conversations...and they have become so tiresome...
If I never again hear the phrases "...nobody needs..." or "...the New King..." it will be much too soon.
I've never owned a .375 Ruger, have sold most of my .375 H&H's, and likely won't buy more. If I do ever buy another .375, it would unquestionably be an H&H; the main reasons would be nostalgia and familiarity.
The main reason for not buying the Ruger would be simple; pulling one out of a guncase, whether at the range or in the field, would carry the risk of igniting another one of these conversations...and they have become so tiresome...
If I never again hear the phrases "...nobody needs..." or "...the New King..." it will be much too soon.
