Are glocks the new toilet paper?

John Rambo said:
Remember 2 years ago when people were panic buying TP rolls??
They didn't know why they were but they saw everyone hoarding like crazy so they just had to do it too.
I feel like this is what's going on with the glock market right now. Folks who never cared about having one are seeing them sell out in minutes don't want to be left out and join in on the craze.
I know the whole handgun market is crazy but this glockness is something else.

Came pretty close myself to hit "complete purchase" before I took a step back and realized I only wanted it because other people did.
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A few years back --I sipped the glock kool-aid , & thought I wanted one ----till I tried one at the range . Thought I was holding a water pistol.
 
JACKSMYDOG said:
Yes, mostly by first time owners who had no idea what they were buying, never fired the Glocks and returned them because they don't have an external safety. It's really a comment about the buyers more than it is about the gun.
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Clearly that was made by a bunch of 1911 fanpeople.... That is the literally the stupidest reason to return a Glock... especially since in the US you have to pick up your pistol through an FFL... so you bought a pistol without looking at it?? If you cant handle the manual of arms on a Glock... you probably shouldn't own a gun...
 
medvedqc said:
... for most canadian users there is not that much to worry about it as again it is just a range toy ...
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I'd go one further and say that for most Canadian panic buyers, they're not even going to be range toys. Safe queens is what they'll be - They will possibly never, ever leave the owner's house.
 
I think majority purchased them to resell in a few years. I personally cant stand glocks but I myself should have bought a glock earlier for 700 and flipped it for twice the price.
 
I've owned a dozen Glocks and have carried three different models of Glock at work. If you shoot your Glocks a lot, eventually you will be tempted too upgrade them, especially the trigger and sights. Once you do that, you start introducing issues into the pistol that can, but not always, effect the reliability of the pistol (Light primers strikes, etc). Also, the MOS system is not the greatest, so if you want a dot, your are running really tall iron sights, or milling an optic cut, which then requires Cerakote, or some other finish that is not nearly as durable, especially if you frequently holster the gun. My advice, is keep your Glock as stock as possible, or buy a Gucci Glock that was engineered from the beginning to race. I've had three different Shadow Systems now, and I think they hit the sweet spot and take Glock parts and mags, if required, which are the most readily available pistol parts.
 
The Janitor said:
Well couldn't they just carry a glock using the Isreali method? Where you carry with the chamber empty and #### it before use?
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Glocks have been ubiquitous in various armed forces and law enforcement agencies for decades. 99.99% of them carry chambered. You don't need an external safety.

The "Israeli" method, from my understanding, was introduced because of the high turnover and short amount of training IDF recruits get. They deemed it "safer" for their noobies to carry with an empty chamber.
 
JACKSMYDOG said:
Yes, mostly by first time owners who had no idea what they were buying, never fired the Glocks and returned them because they don't have an external safety. It's really a comment about the buyers more than it is about the gun.
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What even is the rational for a manual safety on a handgun?

My new Walther P22 has one, and I only ever use it to put the gun into a condition to use the double action trigger.
 
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knock-knock said:
Glocks have been ubiquitous in various armed forces and law enforcement agencies for decades. 99.99% of them carry chambered. You don't need an external safety.

The "Israeli" method, from my understanding, was introduced because of the high turnover and short amount of training IDF recruits get. They deemed it "safer" for their noobies to carry with an empty chamber.
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training for idf soldiers is on going for the 3 years they are serving ... it has more to do with the rules of engagement they had in the past. certainly the same doctrine we had long time where we did not use the safety as well when we transitionned from the 49-56 to the famas: a bullet is in the chamber when you are about to shoot. still think it was a great way to avoid accident but when you re guarding at night oil reserves or any high values you re thinking more than it of the consequences of not being ready ...
 
Andronicus said:
What even is the rational for a manual safety on a handgun?....
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For single action only pistols (and some double/single pistols), to safely carry cocked and locked.

For double action pistols with light and/or short double action trigger pulls, to safely carry hammer down on loaded chamber.

For any type of pistol, when the user can't be trusted with trigger discipline but can be trusted to correctly operate a manual safety.
 
JACKSMYDOG said:
Yes, mostly by first time owners who had no idea what they were buying, never fired the Glocks and returned them because they don't have an external safety. It's really a comment about the buyers more than it is about the gun.
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They fixate only on the mechanical safety. As society has people believing in a false sense of security.

The Janitor said:
Well couldn't they just carry a glock using the Isreali method? Where you carry with the chamber empty and #### it before use?
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And hopes it doesn't jam. I feel much better with a round in the chamber.
 
knock-knock said:
Glocks have been ubiquitous in various armed forces and law enforcement agencies for decades. 99.99% of them carry chambered. You don't need an external safety.

The "Israeli" method, from my understanding, was introduced because of the high turnover and short amount of training IDF recruits get. They deemed it "safer" for their noobies to carry with an empty chamber.
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If I recall correctly they developed their "method" because they were using the old browning Hi-power which lacked a firing pin safety. They couldn't just carry it cocked and locked like a 1911 or a cz75.
 
JACKSMYDOG said:
They could, but they were not gun people, and had little to no understanding of guns, carry method or why a safety isn't really needed.
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You would figure a new gun buyer would educate themself on the safe operation of a firearm prior to purchase. I mean seriously, is it so hard to sit down for 15 minutes and watch a youtube video about how not to shoot yourself (or others) accidentally?
 
medvedqc said:
i did not knew i used israeli method when i was in anoter army ... but for most canadian users there is not that much to worry about it as again it is just a range toy ...
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You were in another army likely using the same pistol (Browning hi-power). But I will concede its not a problem on the range.
 
I have stocked up on both.

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