Do I really need a glock?

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I just bought my first Glock which is a Glock 22 Gen 5 Mos. I took it to the range last night with all of these and it was one of my favourites of the bunch. I liked it so much that as soon as I got home I ordered another one in a Glock 17 Gen 4.
 
Jeff5316 said:
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I just bought my first Glock which is a Glock 22 Gen 5 Mos. I took it to the range last night with all of these and it was one of my favourites of the bunch. I liked it so much that as soon as I got home I ordered another one in a Glock 17 Gen 4.
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Nice collection you have. I'm loving my Glock 17 gen 4. I also have a Glock 44 to teach my kids. We go pistol shooting as a family. Fun stuff.
 
If you want a striker fired pistol, go Canik, and skip the Glock.

Unless you want to complete your pistol collection, in which case, none is complete without a 17.
 
thatmikeguy said:
Nice collection you have. I'm loving my Glock 17 gen 4. I also have a Glock 44 to teach my kids. We go pistol shooting as a family. Fun stuff.
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Thanks. I can’t wait to try out the Glock 17. Glock have definitely grown on me in the last month for sure. Glad I decided to give them a try finally. I have a P226 22 LR and a GSG 1911 22 LR also and will be shooting as a family soon. Just starting to get my little guy into all of this now. It’s a great way to teach gun safety and teach them at a young age.
 
In my opinion, I hate the grip angle on the Glock 22 Gen 4, are the G5 any different?

My other gripe is $800-$900 and the factory couldn't polish the feed ramp, the G mags when using different brand ammo which is not 100% perfect. Swells the mag and makes insertion and extraction less fluid when compared to the steel mag on my APX., at least with the G22.


Like others have stated, if you want to have one to complete your stable great, but their are others that are just as good and better at the same price point.

I personally don't need one, other than work.
 
1ABNDT said:
In my opinion, I hate the grip angle on the Glock 22 Gen 4, are the G5 any different?

My other gripe is $800-$900 and the factory couldn't polish the feed ramp, the G mags when using different brand ammo which is not 100% perfect. Swells the mag and makes insertion and extraction less fluid when compared to the steel mag on my APX., at least with the G22.


Like others have stated, if you want to have one to complete your stable great, but their are others that are just as good and better at the same price point.

I personally don't need one, other than work.
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The grip angle is the same on all of them

You're definately in the minority. Glock literally built it's brand on the fact that using factory gun with factory mags works every time. I have 8k rounds though my gen 5 Glock 17 with everything from 115 gr bulk to +p defensive and everything in between and it has never ever had a single issue.
 
YoungestPiperCub said:
The grip angle is the same on all of them

You're definately in the minority. Glock literally built it's brand on the fact that using factory gun with factory mags works every time. I have 8k rounds though my gen 5 Glock 17 with everything from 115 gr bulk to +p defensive and everything in between and it has never ever had a single issue.
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I didn't state anything about the mags not working everytime. I said for a $800-$900 hg there's other options that are more refined.

And your right glocks claim to fame is "my mags work in other firearms", and that's why most people buy G.
 
1ABNDT said:
I didn't state anything about the mags not working everytime. I said for a $800-$900 hg there's other options that are more refined.

And your right glocks claim to fame is "my mags work in other firearms", and that's why most people buy G.
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You said for $$$ they should polish feed ramps. My point is why polish feed ramps if they always work. That like saying a Toyota has run for 400k without a single issue but I'm not buying one because they didn't polish the exhaust. Fine then buy an alpha Romeo with beautiful curves and goes fast but in 400kms will it be working and will you get parts. It's like a lot of handguns. Most users put tlike 250 rounds though them a year at the range so reliability isn't a big deal. They love fancy guns with all the toys they drive 6 times a year. If you put 20k rounds though your guns a year you will see why they are popular.

Your post did complain about insertion of mags compared to your Beretta. But I'm saying that is not the most common. 99 percent of Glock owners never have a single feed issue of any ammo. The fact that the mags work in other stuff is a bonus but that is not why Glocks are the most common handguns in the world.

Everyone has a different use case so of course people have preferences. A 1000 dollar Turkish over under works great for someone who shoots 2x a year. But if you put 50 flats though your gun each summer your gonna want something built for high volume shooting. Same with handguns, cars and just about anything else. Your not buying a Glock because it has the best trigger, or ergo or looks. Your buying because it goes bang every single time.
 
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1ABNDT said:
Yes, and there's better "duty guns" out there that go bang for the money. Walther PDP, Beretta Apx, SS P320, I also don't need a hg that finished 3rd in the military trials.
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The one that won (p320) had an issue with misfires on drops when it fell on the heel lol. Guy took a round to his calf because of it. But go ahead and keep telling yourself it's a better gun.

For the record, I like my 320 and my 509 for that matter but claiming the 320 is better then a Glock because of a procurement contract isn't proving anything. There are many factors that go into awards, cost being the biggest one. I work with the us government on procurement for my job. They pick the cheapest thing that ticks all the boxes. In this case the modularity of the p320 and the cost was the decider and kudos to them for it. The drop tests also never checked dropping on heel so that weakness was not found till after someone started bleeding.

People think military grade means the best. It actually means the cheapest possible that will pass a specific list of requirements. Glocks are popular because they are time proven to be reliable and safe. New guns might be just as reliable and safe but they don't have the years of proof to back it up.

That's why people feel the need to own one. Because if #### hit the fan they could count on it.
 
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1ABNDT said:
In my opinion, I hate the grip angle on the Glock 22 Gen 4, are the G5 any different?

My other gripe is $800-$900 and the factory couldn't polish the feed ramp, the G mags when using different brand ammo which is not 100% perfect. Swells the mag and makes insertion and extraction less fluid when compared to the steel mag on my APX., at least with the G22.


Like others have stated, if you want to have one to complete your stable great, but their are others that are just as good and better at the same price point.

I personally don't need one, other than work.
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Glock mags are steel lined and I have never had one swell or be less fluid inserting or releasing from any of my Glocks. I've also never heard of anyone else making the same claim that they swell or are less fluid.

What does "different brand of ammo that is not 100%" mean?
 
Even if you buy a Glock and don't like it, they sell fast because of their reputation. Doubt you would lose any money on one. But like everyone eludes get what works for you. I prefer the all metal and design of SIGs, but after handing a G19 thought why not? Procrastinating has cost so many the option of buying something, fence sitting will have you regretting not acting while you could. The G17 felt like a workhorse side arm, the G19 Gen4 I liked better due the size.
 
I have many many CZ's a few Sigs but just one Glock and I pretty much only got the Glock 17 because I have a FX-9 and it uses Glock 17 magazines so because I already had many magazines I got a Glock 17. Glocks are reliable and easy to maintain but they have the worst ergonomics of any handgun I have ever held and compared to a CZ the glock is garbage :)
 
1ABNDT said:
Yes, and there's better "duty guns" out there that go bang for the money. Walther PDP, Beretta Apx, SS P320, I also don't need a hg that finished 3rd in the military trials.
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Define “better”.

I have no experience with the APX (so won’t speak to it), and very minimal experience with the PDP (so take what I say with a grain of salt). I have shot a P320 some (500-1000rds) and various Glock’s frequently over the years.

Do the PDP & P320 feel better in the hand? Yes, when not shooting they do. Once shooting I don’t notice. Does the trigger on the PDP outclass the other two? Yup, when not shooting it’s very easy to notice. Once shooting, the discrepancy narrows considerably, the mushiness of the P320 making it the worst in my mind. Do I think that with quality ammo all three have an outstanding probability of going bang every time? Yes. In fact, the only gun that has ever given me trouble with hollow-point loads was a G48; didn’t like longer OAL/147gr. Once back to 124gr, no problem. Reliability test your ammo, always.

What do I notice when shooting? I’m faster back to target with the Glock than the P320 or PDP. I don’t like the slide release on the P320; I accidentally ride it, but don’t have this problem with the Glock. Are both of these training/familiarity issues? Probably, but why change what works? Slow fire accuracy is a wash; all three are terrible, but good enough for what they’re meant to do.

Better for me is the Glock. Better for you...well, that’s up to you. Comparing modern polymer striker guns from big manufacturers is splitting hairs. Hell, comparing all manner of 9mm service sidearms in general is splitting hairs. None is substantially better than the others and each has their following.
 
TT1900 said:
Do the PDP & P320 feel better in the hand? Yes, when not shooting they do. Once shooting I don’t notice. Does the trigger on the PDP outclass the other two? Yup, when not shooting it’s very easy to notice. Once shooting, the discrepancy narrows considerably, the mushiness of the P320 making it the worst in my mind. Do I think that with quality ammo all three have an outstanding probability of going bang every time? Yes. In fact, the only gun that has ever given me trouble with hollow-point loads was a G48; didn’t like longer OAL/147gr. Once back to 124gr, no problem. Reliability test your ammo, always.
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How Glocks fit in the hand is what converted me. I only owned two P320's before. I sold them both after firing my first Glock and never looked back. The grip angle and lower bore axis just seemed nicer. Everything seems tight and reliability has been outstanding. I can't imagine there's any pistol in the world I would trust right outside of the box more than a Glock.

I did check out the the PDP a couple of months ago. It seemed nice, but there was too much slop and play in the slide for my liking. The APX I have no experience with either.
 
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