10/22 help - kidd trigger issue

Didn’t one of the trigger types have a small pin that sticks out the back of the unit. If the pin pushes against the stock the trigger doesn’t reset
 
machohugeaxe said:
Using CCI SV.
I replaced it with a BX trigger and it functions well. I'm going to take apart the Kidd trigger and clean it. I contacted Kidd, was waiting for a response before I took it apart. Comparing the triggers side by side, the Kidd trigger seems to reset at a point where the hammer is lower/further back than the BX trigger, but not a significant amount.

I was going to grab some mini mag to try, and if it works, it might not be purely a trigger issue. If it still doesn't, I'm going to take apart the trigger and give it clean. The thing I'm not sure about is, is it possible to have successful ejections and still not go back far enough to engage the trigger reset. I'm not sure about lubricating any of the parts, reading conflicting things about this.
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A Kidd trigger doesn’t go with CCISV. If that us what you will shoot, use a BX. Putting a street hooker in a international business meeting is the same deal.
 
45CAT said:
Didn’t one of the trigger types have a small pin that sticks out the back of the unit. If the pin pushes against the stock the trigger doesn’t reset
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You might be onto something here. I recall the Kidd triggers seem to enjoy a bit more space behind the trigger, where the hammer spring recoils to while cocking. I don't think the bx trigger relies on this as much as the Kidd ones do. They all have them, just seemed the Kidd triggers actually moves more in the housing.
 
emerson said:
A Kidd trigger doesn’t go with CCISV. If that us what you will shoot, use a BX. Putting a street hooker in a international business meeting is the same deal.
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Haha its just a trigger, maybe the chamber is one on a standard barrel! Though the barrel is a Volquartsen one. Idk i've shot a bunch of different stuff through it short of tenex, not sure if brand matters too much for 50 yards anyway for my purposes. CCI SV groupings seem middle of the road, and can't beat the price. Plus i'm still trying to get the damn thing to work as it came.

wallz said:
You might be onto something here. I recall the Kidd triggers seem to enjoy a bit more space behind the trigger, where the hammer spring recoils to while cocking. I don't think the bx trigger relies on this as much as the Kidd ones do. They all have them, just seemed the Kidd triggers actually moves more in the housing.
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i've explored this, there was a gap on the magpul hunter stock enough for the strut part sticking out, I drilled a bit more of a dimple on the stock anyway just in case, but it didn't help.

Feel like my only remaining options are to try a higher velocity round, and if that works, examine the bolt alignment and springs. Otherwise take the trigger apart and clean. The sear doesn't look like a standard 10/22 trigger sear, so the videos out there for filing it will not work I think.
 
45CAT said:
Put up a post on rimfirecentral.com in the states,a lot of 10/22 people on there
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I think I will, after I take it apart and put it together.

Here is my complete updated experience short of that:
1. 10/22 kidd trigger not resetting. Cannot be reset by pushing trigger forward, doesnt seem to be a reset spring issue.
2. Ejects fine, chambers next round, seeing strike mark on chambered round. Sometimes double fires
3. Increased trigger pull weight, stopped doubling but still does not reset
4. Verified hammer follows bolt back forward. If it goes back sufficiently fast, causes doubling
5. Tested with high velocity ammo, causes more doubling than standard velocity
6. Verified proper function swapping in bx trigger
7. Verified bx trigger resets about 2mm earlier in terms of bolt charging handle position
8. Verified not hammer strut protrusion from back issue

Seeing as manually pulling bolt back resets the trigger but a shot does not, my guess is sear does not engage when hammer goes back a high speed?

Will take apart, clean and put together
 
Might have found something!
I put the trigger unit in a vice and ran my acrylic handled screwdriver handle along it, simulating the action. I felt a little rough patch resistance and looked closer. On one side there is a rough spot, not sure how it got there but might've been from use. Anyway, this caused a bit of a ridge that slightly hindered the smooth sliding along that top edge. Anyway, not sure if this matters at all but its the only thing I could find that was different.
I'm still going to take the trigger unit apart and clean it, but I might also file that ridge down as well.

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