Hunters who do not practice their marksmanship
- Thread starter Tompullings
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Me? I barely even post here. Sending a pm for clarification.
I don’t think ethical hunting practices is virtue signalling but to each his own.
the spank
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And what would the benefit be to that?
The room in the woods. It would be empty and hunting pressure would be halved. Plus all the deer that don’t get wounded and die slow deaths. I’m not saying I want it to happen I’m just daydreaming possibilities on a lazy Sunday.
No it isn't just the older hunters, I watched one young guy sight in his new Huskemaw scope at 25 yards. The guy with him asked if he was going to shoot farther to verify the point of impact, and his response was why bother wasting time and ammunition, he had calculated the point of impacts out to 800 yards, and would shoot to 800 yards at game animals. I did some load development for a friend in his 20s this summer, and I left the zero 2" high at 100m, and told him to verify at longer distances, but he didn't bother, and went hunting. A young co-worker had a new scope mounted and bore sighted, and went hunting without even shooting at a target. All three had higher dollar rifles/scopes, and range finders.
I hunted with in laws for years and it was a circus. One year between us we shot 12 deer either white tail or mule deer and 8 of them got shot in the ass and they were so impressed with there shooting. Father in law and brother in law had never in the 25 years I knew them ever sighted in their rifles that I ever seen. Course only seen father in law get one deer in all that time too. I am sure they went years between a box of ammo the 303 shells of the father in law were actually black over the years.
Midnight Rider
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Missed shots , and wounded animals has always been an issue , and is often attributed to buck fever . Given the price , and in some cases , the scarcity of ammo , not many seasonal hunters would be practicing other than 2 or 3 shots a year ; hopefully with the wide use of scopes these days , the chances of misses or wounded animals is less once their scope is dialed in . 
Y'know, for all them deer supposedly dying slow deaths, I figure I'd have run across a carcass or two over the years, but, other than the roadside carnage in some places during the rut, I simply have not.
Careful what you wish for. Many of the Euro countries require a shooting skills test on both fixed and moving targets in order to qualify to hunt. That, and the extreme expenses associated with Club Memberships, game fees, licensing costs, etc. all serve pretty well, at keeping the Peasantry (that's us!) from having access to hunting at all!
It's a big Ol' Country. If you find it to crowded where you are, hunt elsewhere! It only takes putting in a few minutes of legging it, to get one or two hills over from the road, and you will likely find that you have all the peace and quiet, as you may feel the need for. That based on my experiences hunting Saskatchewan, Alberta, and BC.
I hunt the same area most years...perks of living in the country. I don't have to recall to hard to come up with a half dozen deer carcasses that I wandered across... pretty sure they didn't have a heart attack.
My dream would be to ban motorized vehicles from Crown Land. That would separate the men from the boys.
I literally said in the paragraph you quoted that I don’t wish for that. I know the slippery slope that leads down.
I come across wounded deer quite often. Having lived in both Ontario, sask, and AB I can say the hunting situation is completely different here. It’s so much more populated and the woods get swarming with yahoos come rifle season. I try to get to boat access land to keep me safe from all the flying projectiles that missed their mark. The west is a hunter’s paradise.
the spank
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You should contact Umchorn2 and take him up on his offer to take a card carrying liberal hunting. You two would get along great unless one other person in the same woods is too much pressure for you? Sadly guys like you and him think more restrictions improves hunting for those willing to jump through more hoops. Sadly you cannot see the lack of other hunters will bring about the death of the sport much quicker but you carry on with your dream of a perfect season with fewer hunters and hunters who can pass annual shooting requirements. There are ways to cultivate areas of solitude. Buy your own like Umchorn2 or develop a good relationship with landowners and get a few areas to yourself like I've been lucky (by way of working at it) enough to find.
Reading comprehension lacking? I’ve said at least twice in this thread that I don’t want more restrictions on hunters and I even said it in the post you quoted. I just want some of the worst offenders to give their heads a shake. Perhaps people could encourage their spray and pray friends to practice a bit.
the spank
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Perhaps you can fund them? I'll gladly accept a flat of ammo to practice with. Let me know where to email my shipping address to you.
Not my responsibility to ensure hunters know how to shoot. It’s up to the individual. If you like handouts and avoiding personal responsibility then there’s a party you can vote for that’ll be right up your alley.
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I tend to pay attention to people sighting in prior to season opener and you can sure tell who’s a shooter and who’s a hunter, the latter tend to be part of the “good enough” crowd more often than not. The shooters that hunt tend to be looking for tighter groups, I guess pie plate groups are good enough to hit a deer in the vitals but ffs some of the groups I’ve watched people call good enough are nothing to be happy with. My sks groups better lol.
and that would force a disabled guy like me to have to give up hunting and shooting..... and ice fishing among other things I do on crown land with my atv. Not all ATV users are disrespectful to people and the land like many are. In BC we call them weekend warriors.
Not only am I respectful of the land and people when I use my atv , I generally use it to get to an area I 'can' manage on foot to get to where I want to be. Otherwise , established trails and forestry skid roads an mains. Where I live I can leave my driveway on my ATV to access crown land and existing trails and that is why I bought my home here.
Regardless this is not an ATV thread
As far as the people who never go shooting to hone thier skills...... I am not one of those people though sadly I know many hunters who fit that bill. It's why I solo hunt for the most part and poor firearm safety practices by hunting companions of the past is one reason for that. This season I did not get a whole lot of summer time shooting in and found myself scrambling a little to get a rifle ready for my first deer hunt of the season. I did make time to get the rifle sighted in with the new mount and scope , set for the ranges I expected to be shooting. Same for my 7mm rem mag. I put it away last season , zero'd at 275m and she was bang on where I left her with a caveat.... I have a wrist roll when I shoot off the bench so was hitting almost 2 inch to the left at 100m..... before I adjusted the scope I let the rifle cool down and took 3 standing shots at the 100m. They hit right on the money so I left the scope alone.
Both rifles took game with clean 1 shot kills this season so I'm happy about that.
My new 22 was a different story. It's a savage rascal kids rifle I use for grouse. I should have just used the irons it comes with but no..... I had to go and put a scope on it LOL.
Zero'd it at what I thought would be the perfect distance for grouse hunting but I obviously came up short. I also had no summer time shooting with that rifle and it showed. I saw probably close to 100 grouse or more on my last trip and only killed 2 LOL pretty pathetic I know. So I need to get more shooting time in this year and I also need to take the wife with me so she can hone her skills some more too.
