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A low end Bushnell is not going to be great in low light. But you're probably right, the lower the magnification the better in low light at close range. Iron sights, or friggin no sights at all would be just fine for a 30 yard shot, lol.
 
Leupold vx freedom? Or any lower end leupold. There’s a vx-1 2-7x33 gloss that was posted 2 minutes ago in the ee for 350
 
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A low end Bushnell is not going to be great in low light. But you're probably right, the lower the magnification the better in low light at close range. Iron sights, or friggin no sights at all would be just fine for a 30 yard shot, lol.

I've had excellent luck with Bushnells in low light.

Iron sights aren't as good as a scope at 29.5 minutes past sunset. You can't keep everything in focus in the dark, at least not as easily as with an optic....
 
Leupold vx freedom? Or any lower end leupold. There’s a vx-1 2-7x33 gloss that was posted 2 minutes ago in the ee for 350

We're talking about a guy who leaves his rifle out in the rain, so it doesn't get rusty coming into the warm house from the cold truck...... and who hasn't been to the range with his gun to confirm zero, ever.

Leupold would be a waste of money.
 
Be sounds like a big dummy, beyond help and shouldn't be hunting.

We're talking about a guy who leaves his rifle out in the rain, so it doesn't get rusty coming into the warm house from the cold truck...... and who hasn't been to the range with his gun to confirm zero, ever.

Leupold would be a waste of money.
 
OP - given your description - short range, low light, "good quality" - but leaves rifle out in rain and never checks "sighting in" - maybe consider a used Weaver K2.5 or K3 - there was various models over the years - probably "best" will have the word "MICROTRAC" on left side of elevation turret. I doubt that I have ever paid more than $100 for a used one - various, multiple kinds of reticles were made - I am told that Trace Repairs out of Alberta will clean out, recondition, etc., but I have never used them and have no idea what they charge for their servicing of a scope.

Or, at perhaps double that price - as per "kamlooky" above - a used Leupold M8-4x.

Bases and rings will about drive you nuts - say from $30 to $300 - I presume that you intend to mount the scope yourself. In my experience, the cheapest ones - often "made-in-China" or other Asian country - will have very soft screws that strip threads or their head - before getting to the maker's torque limits - so plan to buy more than one set of "cheap" ones. Many modern people do not want to take the time to deal with the old-school Weaver ring - steel strap "over the top" of the aluminum bottom - because the scope rotates as they are tightened - so have to off set for that with trial and error to get a "square" reticle - but I have found them to be excellent light weight rings, once set up.
 
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Trade off the rifle and get a 12 gauge slug gun...?

The Bushnell Banner 1.5-4.5x32 would be just fine... or a Scopechief in the same power range...
 
We're talking about a guy who leaves his rifle out in the rain, so it doesn't get rusty coming into the warm house from the cold truck...... and who hasn't been to the range with his gun to confirm zero, ever.

Leupold would be a waste of money.

If he hasn't been to the range to confirm zero and has no plans to start then I would be washing my hands of the situation. I'm not going to spend my time and effort to help a guy who isn't willing to do the bare minimum, family or not.

As for leaving it outside, I'd argue a decent scope like a lower end Leupold would be perfect because they are good enough to withstand such abuse, and they should perform well at low light which is your stated reason for getting a new scope.
 
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I put a new Bushnell Banner 1.5-4.5X32mm on my Marlin 336 .30-30. Decent scope for the money.

However, the 1958 vintage Savage 99 in .308 Win got a nice, used Leupold VariX 2-7 ;)

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Is his 'old scope' damaged or just NOT Z-ed ? Or too powerful for short shots ?
Anyway, I agree a $200 red dot might be the best way.
 
No matter what, we share your pain with this guy. Next he's going to ask you to clean the action for him because the firing pin doesn't want to move.
 
Is his 'old scope' damaged or just NOT Z-ed ? Or too powerful for short shots ?
Anyway, I agree a $200 red dot might be the best way.

It's not bright enough in low light. Also not zeroed, but visibility seems to be the big reason for a new scope.
 
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