Haven't seen any great prices on bulk ammo yet, lowest prices for .22lLR, .223, 9mm?

The higher North American prices go, the more tempting it is for an overseas manufacturer to swoop in with cheap alternatives. The US has had an influx of ammo from companies like armscor, igman, belom, zsr etc. and they are pretty affordable and decent quality.
 
I don't think retailers make much margin on ammunition but I could be wrong. I just wish more powder and primers would get to the market so I can make my own.
 
I just bought 1000 rds of 9mm. Sellier & Bellot 124gr FMJ for $419 before tax at G4C Gunstore in Toronto. I did a pickup so no delivery.

Not quite $0.40 per round but close.

You can check it out on their website.
 
Here's how I see things regarding expected prices based on current macro forces:

1) War - causes upward pressure on prices, and crimps availability. Last time there was a war, ammo was non-existent for many months as the US manufacturers diverted all production to supplying US troops (at least for the 223 caliber). This could happen again with Ukraine.
2) Inflation/money printing/stimulus checks- causes upward pressure on prices due to increased raw material costs and higher overall demand. Governments are giving out "inflation relief" checks, which will keep inflation higher than without them.
3) Recession- causes downward pressure on prices, down to the vendor's cost (selling for anything less= losing money). This improved pricing would be due to poor economic outlook (reducing demand), and would only be temporary. The vendor will not order any more if they are losing money on selling a product- this would be inflationary in the medium term due to less available supply to end consumers.
4) Interest rates- increases cost to borrow, so will cause upward pressure on prices (costs the vendor more to order the same amount of goods)
5) De-globalization- increases costs in general- alternative suppliers need to be found if the current ones are not available.

Basically the expectation is that the prices will have some sort of floor due to the above (at least down to the vendor's cost basis, or it's a loss leader). If prices drop dramatically, it'll likely be a terrible sign that we are in a bad recession/depression. Only re-globalization or end of war would be a positive sign that prices may come down (end of war is typically when ammo gets real cheap).

In the face of the above, I make sure I always have some ammo on hand to practice with, and enough to keep me asleep at night (ie. things can always get worse). Good luck all!
 
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Here's how I see things regarding expected prices based on current macro forces:

1) War - causes upward pressure on prices, and crimps availability. Last time there was a war, ammo was non-existent for many months as the US manufacturers diverted all production to supplying US troops (at least for the 223 caliber). This could happen again with Ukraine.
2) Inflation/money printing/stimulus checks- causes upward pressure on prices due to increased raw material costs and higher overall demand. Governments are giving out "inflation relief" checks, which will keep inflation higher than without them.
3) Recession- causes downward pressure on prices, down to the vendor's cost (selling for anything less= losing money). This improved pricing would be due to poor economic outlook (reducing demand), and would only be temporary. The vendor will not order any more if they are losing money on selling a product- this would be inflationary in the medium term due to less available supply to end consumers.
4) Interest rates- increases cost to borrow, so will cause upward pressure on prices (costs the vendor more to order the same amount of goods)
5) De-globalization- increases costs in general- alternative suppliers need to be found if the current ones are not available.

Basically the expectation is that the prices will have some sort of floor due to the above (at least down to the vendor's cost basis, or it's a loss leader). If prices drop dramatically, it'll likely be a terrible sign that we are in a bad recession/depression. Only re-globalization or end of war would be a positive sign that prices may come down (end of war is typically when ammo gets real cheap).

In the face of the above, I make sure I always have some ammo on hand to practice with, and enough to keep me asleep at night (ie. things can always get worse). Good luck all!
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Only thing, which is major important, is the exchange rate of the CAD to USD.
 
Tenda is selling Blazer 115gr 9mm for 359/1000 right now. After taxes (free shipping) works out to be just under .42 cpr. It’s aluminum cased so might not be for everyone but my g17 hasn’t had any issues with it.

Overpriced but it’s the cheapest bulk 9mm I’ve seen in a couple years.
 
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115gr is a bit snappy, but for practicing and recoil control training... Maybe it is not bad. Thank you for the hint.
 
sphincter### said:
Here's how I see things regarding expected prices based on current macro forces:

1) War - causes upward pressure on prices, and crimps availability. Last time there was a war, ammo was non-existent for many months as the US manufacturers diverted all production to supplying US troops (at least for the 223 caliber). This could happen again with Ukraine.
2) Inflation/money printing/stimulus checks- causes upward pressure on prices due to increased raw material costs and higher overall demand. Governments are giving out "inflation relief" checks, which will keep inflation higher than without them.
3) Recession- causes downward pressure on prices, down to the vendor's cost (selling for anything less= losing money). This improved pricing would be due to poor economic outlook (reducing demand), and would only be temporary. The vendor will not order any more if they are losing money on selling a product- this would be inflationary in the medium term due to less available supply to end consumers.
4) Interest rates- increases cost to borrow, so will cause upward pressure on prices (costs the vendor more to order the same amount of goods)
5) De-globalization- increases costs in general- alternative suppliers need to be found if the current ones are not available.

Basically the expectation is that the prices will have some sort of floor due to the above (at least down to the vendor's cost basis, or it's a loss leader). If prices drop dramatically, it'll likely be a terrible sign that we are in a bad recession/depression. Only re-globalization or end of war would be a positive sign that prices may come down (end of war is typically when ammo gets real cheap).

In the face of the above, I make sure I always have some ammo on hand to practice with, and enough to keep me asleep at night (ie. things can always get worse). Good luck all!
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Sharp observations. Be interesting to see if the proposed ban on semi-auto centerfire impacts 5.56 prices/
 
A major factor is shipping costs. Only UPS as only option. Years ago SFRC always had cheap Wolff reloads. What surprises me most, is how 9mm JHP and HP went up over the years. Why is that?
 
Popularity of PC rifles ?? And lots more handgunners. All adds up to High Demand = High Prices.
I expect this to change when 'new C21' bans go down.
JMO
 
ALL ammo prices skyrocketed due to many factors over the last couple years lol what rock have you been under?

JHP etc always had a higher price point because they are considered specialty/defensive rounds and they aren’t getting shot up at the rate FMJ is. Production runs are smaller and availability is lower=higher price.

I have a 50 round box of Winchester Ranger 9mm 147gr SXT JHP at home that I bought in 2018 with a price sticker of $23.99 on it. I should have cleaned them out at that price because Winchester rebranded the Ranger line to PDX1 Defender (Same round, different box and name) and a 20 round box is $39.99 at Cabelas.
 
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dmazay said:
115gr is a bit snappy, but for practicing and recoil control training... Maybe it is not bad. Thank you for the hint.
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WHUT??!! Maybe for novices and people who dont know what they are doing, but the reality is that there is really no functional difference.
 
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