It's a refurb. It would have originally have had a walnut stock, they were used up until 1916 or so.it also would not have had a handguard when first made.
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It's a refurb. It would have originally have had a walnut stock, they were used up until 1916 or so.it also would not have had a handguard when first made.
When would the refurb have occurred? After ww1? Because it has a matching stock and the font is worn down, so if it was refurbed I imagine it was quite a while ago.
Interesting, I’m thinking it probably went through more than one refurb due to the fact it has a post 1916 stock and appears to have been sanded since then. The early bayonet latch on the 1901 I have here is by far my favourite. Don’t know why they changed to the lever style.
I'm not sure, but the most functional design was the last one - dovetailed adjustable sight and button release.
My bad, I didn't realize you were talking about that type of cleaning rod.
I believe the bayonet latch came down to simplicity and reliability. The initial latch and lever locking systems were more prone to grit and debris getting into the mechanisms and were more complicated to manufacture. The button system was simple and more robust. That being said, the stickers on these carbines seem like they would bend and twist if they were deployed in combat, unlike a Mosin Nagant M44 or an SKS with the same fixed system.
Either way, I wouldn’t like to have one tickling my ribs….
Either way, I wouldn’t like to have one tickling my ribs….
Eaglelord17
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The earliest bayonet system didn't hold up in the field, it was too weak and small. The second version was a pawl system that was transitional. The final system is the button system which you see on most of them.
Yeah I feel the bayonets would be good for one use and that’s about it haha. They don’t seem very strong, even with the button style latch. I definitely prefer the beefiness of my m44 and type 44 bayonets.
If you sight down the bayonets on these, almost all of them have some waviness to them. It's clear field armorers straightened them from time to time.
You can envision the bayonet being used as a support for the front of the rifle in combat, resting on walls, sandbags, etc.
You can envision the bayonet being used as a support for the front of the rifle in combat, resting on walls, sandbags, etc.
Eaglelord17
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Even in the folded position its a perfect spot to bend the bayonet when accidentally slapped up against a wall or other resting point.
Before this sale I wasn’t really into carcanos but now I have quite the collection haha, so this book would be useful. Thanks for sharing.
Eaglelord17
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Seconded on this book, excellent reference material. Great photos and tons of details I have been able to apply to other milsurps. For example I was able to prove a M95 carbine in 8x50r was a Italian owned example based off a Italian refurb mark on the front barrel band that was mentioned in this book.
fritzhanzel
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Received mine, overall the same as pictured before, the bores are excellent and tight. I would NOT fire 0.268 bullets through them. On one the stock and metal is very good but the door in the back is broken off, the other one has some surface rust (can probably easy remove with steel wool) and the wood has dings and some bigger chip, nothing really of concern.
