What abouy a 9mm Para bolt action rifle?

GimpyGolden said:
The post about pulling the extractor on a 12GA with inserts got me thinking.
I wonder if you machined off enough of the rim on the barrel insert so the extractor has nothing to grab you would have a quick change 12GA pump to 9mm that you have to flick the cases from.
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Some adapters have a cut out for the extractor to skip. The paper that came with mine, talks about it to leave in. But that option is only for the shorter, so you'll need to mod for the longer ones. With a single shot, you can just remove the spring so the extractor doesnt pop out.
 
OkayShooter said:
Some adapters have a cut out for the extractor to skip. The paper that came with mine, talks about it to leave in. But that option is only for the shorter, so you'll need to mod for the longer ones. With a single shot, you can just remove the spring so the extractor doesnt pop out.
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I would be looking a 3" adapter so I can can pop it in/out of the ejection port. I am still on the hunt for an H&R 12GA but in the mean time I should be able to use one of my pumps.
 
Well you could do it with a long adapter. You would just have to insert it into the barrel before putting the barrel on the gun, after modding it to skip the rim.
 
What about a 9mm pump with a glock mag well. Check out the Troy PAR. Sold in canada. I called Troy and suggested a 9mm with a glock Magwell for Kanukastan and they were quite receptive consumer interest. Maybe everybody should give them a call and suggest it?
 
frogger said:
What about a 9mm pump with a glock mag well. Check out the Troy PAR. Sold in canada. I called Troy and suggested a 9mm with a glock Magwell for Kanukastan and they were quite receptive consumer interest. Maybe everybody should give them a call and suggest it?
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I'd be down for that too. Also checkout the Tombstone lever gun. Not the prettiest but checks all the boxes for me.
If/when C21 gets past we're gonna need a reason why there's 9mm brass on a backyard range or crown land in case of unexpected visitors.
 
frogger said:
What about a 9mm pump with a glock mag well. Check out the Troy PAR. Sold in canada. I called Troy and suggested a 9mm with a glock Magwell for Kanukastan and they were quite receptive consumer interest. Maybe everybody should give them a call and suggest it?
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I think the price would be a shocker. As it wouldnt be 1000$ Ruger PCC price.

GimpyGolden said:
Or get 5 of em and load up the tube and run em lol
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Nothing holds the rounds in. So the carrier picking up the shell will dislodge it.
 
OkayShooter said:
I think the price would be a shocker. As it wouldnt be 1000$ Ruger PCC price.

But it might just be one of the only quick loading 9mm NR rifles in Canada if it ever comes to pass.

Nothing holds the rounds in. So the carrier picking up the shell will dislodge it.
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Nothing a lil tacky grease on the cartridges wouldn't fix. I wasn't seriously considering $500 in adapters either, it was in jest.
 
dthunter said:
I converted a savage 112-J to 45ACP a few years ago. I just changd the bolt face to the 308win size and screwed on a heavy prefit 21” barrel. The action has no magazine cut out, and the trigger is fully adjustable.

I can drop the loaded round and chamber as smooth as silk!

The rifle is basicly a target/benchrest 45ACP. Not practical for almost anyone, but super fun on the gopher fields! The rifle shoots most 230 grain bullets around the 1-1/4” or better at 100.
I load to 45 super pressures and use a tactical scope with turrets to dial in shots from 100-150yds. Challenging trajectory that is accurate enough to adjust for and hit your target with siprising regularity! It is halarious fun!

Any savage .223 rifle with a blind blank inserted in the magazine well should work fine for a single shot 9mm.

Wish I knew how to post puctures here now, I have a few good photos to share if I can get them to post.View attachment 648255
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That is a beautiful rifle dthunter! If it was reliably mag fed it would be a dream come true. I almost looks integrally suppressed with that heavy barrel. Good work man!!
 
romayama said:
Liking the idea! Barrel is easy to swap on that one. 9mm can use 223 bolt face and 40sw/10mm can use 7.62x39/6.5 Grendel bolt face. The problem I can see is the ejector - it likely won't work on the pistol casings
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A 9mm head is very close to that of a .223, but is slightly larger in diameter. A .223 boltface counterbore may need to be opened out slightly.
I was experimenting with a Savage 340 .222 bolt, and the 9mm stuck quite firmly in place. It could not tip out under the pressure of the plunger ejector. Had to remove the extractor spring, disengaging the extractor from the 9mm rim to get it free.
 
tiriaq said:
A 9mm head is very close to that of a .223, but is slightly larger in diameter. A .223 boltface counterbore may need to be opened out slightly.
I was experimenting with a Savage 340 .222 bolt, and the 9mm stuck quite firmly in place. It could not tip out under the pressure of the plunger ejector. Had to remove the extractor spring, disengaging the extractor from the 9mm rim to get it free.
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Making a bolt face larger is a whole lot easier than making a bolt face smaller. ;)
 
Particularly on something like a 340. The bolt body is separate from the handle, so it is very easy to chuck it up in a lathe.
 
OkayShooter said:
I think the price would be a shocker. As it wouldnt be 1000$ Ruger PCC price.



Nothing holds the rounds in. So the carrier picking up the shell will dislodge it.
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If they were in line with current PAR pricing and took glock mags that would get you a 9mm for like $1000 less than the Tombstone lever action, and would take 10 rounds.

I could see that becoming popular regardless of c21 passing or not...
 
D-Man said:
Just had a look at Intersurplus site....a m96 Husqvarna complete in 8x57 can be had for as little as $250, and HVA m98's in 8x57 start at $350. Both likely decent donor actions...
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Those might be perfectly good actions for some purposes.
But for a conversion to 9mm:
-the bolt face must be altered.
-the extractor must be altered.
-the ejector must be altered.
-once a magazine is adapted, getting the round from the magazine all the way forward to the chamber without a hiccup is going to be a challenge. Long jump from magazine to barrel with a short cartridge.

I'm thinking some more about a .222 Model 340. Minor bolt face alteration - just increasing the diameter of the counterbore a small amount. Extractor and ejector should work as is. Feed opening in bottom of the receiver isn't much wider than a single stack 9mm magazine. Existing holes front and back to secure a magazine housing. Savage barrel installation system, no shoulder and locking collar. The jump from magazine to barrel about as short as you can get with a front locking action. Doggy 340/830 rifles have only modest value.

For a single shot, a Lee Enfield is about as easy as it gets. Rebarrel. A bit of extractor alteration might be needed.
 
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Perhaps this is backtracking a touch. But I was in the LGS and by God, 1911 mags fit in Destroyers...have to notch out a hole for the magazine catch. A touch off topic...yet still a bit relevant to the discussion at hand IMO
 
You could put a DIY trigger and a magwell on a Mech Tech CCU to make a 9mm/10mm/45ACP rifle.
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The PAR or SAR sounds like all it would need is for the face of the bolt to be altered, and the gas port of an off the shelf AR 9mm barrel plugged.
Add an off the shelf STANAG to 9mm mag well adapter and some glock magazines..... am I missing anything?

I'd be pretty happy with a single shot break action 9mm option for casual plinking.
 
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