I have an Investarms, 50 cal. percussion Hawken style 22" barrel. Eyesight concerns, have necessitated removal of the original rear sight in favour of a homemade rear peep sight which is currently attached to the previous location of the ramped sight. However, while I am able to know where the rifle shoots with this setup, through trial and error, I would prefer to be able to point it at a spot more directly so I don't have to remember all the variables while tryng to hit my spot. I have tried Williams and Skinner sights but either the fit is off or the barrell attachment location is the wrong thread. Does anyone have any suggestions or run into this same situation and been able to correct it somewhat. I don't think the current threading on the barrel is working properly on my jury-rigged setup.
Peep sights for Hawken muzzleloader
- Thread starter Wishalot
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Have you looked at the Lyman peep site meant for their Great Plains rifle. Worst case you may have to drill and tap your tang.
Thank you. Will check into that.
bandanaman
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I have a Pedersoli Hawken that I use for hunting, my eyesight at 70 isn't what it used to be .....fortunately the tang is already drilled and tapped. I did have to make an adapter ramp to pick up those holes and in turn drill and tap the ramp for an old Redfield peep sight I had. The beach front civil war type sight works real well except that the blade is very sharp and can be virtually impossible to pull from a soft liner type case....I had to cover it with a plastic hood in order to pull it out of my Kolpin gun carrier....My Great Plains rifle I keep as is for traditional shoots but it does have three mounting screws in the tang which one could utilize for mtg. Two deer for the peep sight so far ,one at 26 yds. and one just over 100 yds...
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A very well done job in Post #4 - but maybe another idea? Picture below is of the first pre-64 Winchester, in 375 H&H, that Finn Aargaard used. In his hunting days in Africa, at different times, he had two - the one in this picture he had bought new from store, the other was previously owned - the other one had a small Weaver scope - maybe a K2.5 or similar.
In a book of his, he says he had that rear aperture sight made in a gun shop in Nairobi. Does not look to be overly complicated to make - but does not appear to have ANY adjustment - so might have to plan to make many - to get the hole in the correct place for your rifle. Or learn to "aim off" when you need to hit things. And then, probably like a regulated double rifle - you would be set up for ONE kind of loading. Picture was stolen some time ago off the Internet, I think.
In a book of his, he says he had that rear aperture sight made in a gun shop in Nairobi. Does not look to be overly complicated to make - but does not appear to have ANY adjustment - so might have to plan to make many - to get the hole in the correct place for your rifle. Or learn to "aim off" when you need to hit things. And then, probably like a regulated double rifle - you would be set up for ONE kind of loading. Picture was stolen some time ago off the Internet, I think.
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gunsaholic
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Looking at the last post with the simple peep sight, reminded me of the Cooey peep sight on the model 82. They are simple as well but adjustable with removable aperture.
vagrantviking
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I believe Investarms and Lyman were paired up at one time so there's a chance that the same sights will fit both.
There is the Lyman 57ML (going by memory here so might be off) similar to the Redfield pictured above. There is also a folding tang sight made to dit the same rifles, also I think by Lyman.
I might have more information about it if I dig in the parts bin.
To find one you like and make an adapter ramp is also a good idea if you find other models you like.
https://w ww.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/883/1/RS-57-GPR
Or barrel peep sight.
https://w ww.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/881/1/RS-CA-PEEP-16
Thanks so much everyone, love the setups shown here and will certainly spur me on to adapt something more concrete with my setup - leaning to using this current peep, but may have to get current location tapped for proper threading. I will look into Lyman sighting systems as well as Tracl of the Wolf which I haven't done as yet.
If you have some cash to spend and want something for long range work Contact Lee Shaver he sells a tang sight made for muzzleloaders. Check out Idaho Lewis on YouTube and he is shooting long range with the old side hammer TC guns with a conical with great results.
But with what you have said you wanted this for hunting a old Williams receiver sight would prob be your best option.
But with what you have said you wanted this for hunting a old Williams receiver sight would prob be your best option.
TC made a sweet little tang peep, they do come up for sale if you search. These also fit Investarms, and Lyman's, as Investarm builds the guns for lyman and stamps the Lyman name on them. Everything is interchangable ,lock,stock and barrels between TC,Lyman,and investarms. Pedersoli also makes a near identical sight. Here is a picture of the sight as mounted.
https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/en/product/traditional-hawken-hunter-rifle-flintlock-model
https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/en/product/traditional-hawken-hunter-rifle-flintlock-model
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Thanks, Pete. That sight would be perfect. I'll be looking for one.
