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Hey all,

First time buying a rifle. My intended use is recreational and target practice.

I was looking at the following,

5.56 Nato
1. Kodiak W180C Gen2
2. bcl-srv2-siberian

9mm lugger
1. Ruger
2. JR
3. FX9


Questions:
1. In terms of ammo, which is usually cheaper 5.56 / 9mm lugger ?
2. which rifle is better among the 5 ? i see Kodiak gen2 is in stock and also Ruger and JR. Fx9 is not in stock in many sites that i checked
3. Along with rifles, what are the accessories i should buy and any recommendation.

TIA
 
9mm ammo is cheaper and def better for short range target practice
22lr is even cheaper :)

I have both the Ruger and the JR

The ruger is a very solid gun and will last a long time with minimal maintenance but its heavy and if you want to make it tactical you will likely need to spend a bit more

The JR is quite good and quite accurate but not quite as solidly built as the ruger. It has a much more AR feel right out of the box. You will need to buy an optic for it as it doesn't come with sights

When I go to the range for fun I always pick the JR over the Ruger
 
killingspree said:
Hey all,

First time buying a rifle. My intended use is recreational and target practice.

I was looking at the following,

5.56 Nato
1. Kodiak W180C Gen2
2. bcl-srv2-siberian

9mm lugger
1. Ruger
2. JR
3. FX9


Questions:
1. In terms of ammo, which is usually cheaper 5.56 / 9mm lugger ?
2. which rifle is better among the 5 ? i see Kodiak gen2 is in stock and also Ruger and JR. Fx9 is not in stock in many sites that i checked
3. Along with rifles, what are the accessories i should buy and any recommendation.

TIA
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Currently, as far as ammo prices go:
9mm - $0.40 round (and up) in all size packaging
223/6.56 - $0.70 round in 1000 round packs, typically $0.80 round (and up) in smaller quantities

Depending on what type of target practice will decide your gun type. Indoor range? I'd go 9mm for quieter. Outdoor, but short range (100 yards or less) I'd still go 9mm. Anything past 100 yards you'll be hard pressed to reach out with 9mm, so go 223/5.56

Accessories? Neither of these firearms have iron sights, so you'll need an optic. What type? Once again, depends on the shooting you'll be doing. If you are planning to get into action shooting, a sling is handy. If you are only doing bench shooting, nothing special required

Since you are just getting into things, most recommended is safety gear and safety mindset. Ear and eye protection, muzzle control, trigger finger discipline. Everything else will come with practice. Have fun out there
 
Thank you. That concludes the type. i will go with 9mm especially, for ammo price and the club membership im planning to get (one which accepts new membership) is indoor.

i will get good eyes and ear protection.

I would like the compatibility with AR15 stock and accessories. Of course i want something reliable and easy to clean myself (DIY). Considering this, which is better ?

JC seems to be cheaper than Ruger. Fx9 is not in stock in most of the places so kind of ruled out.

Also, i should get M-lok model right ?
 
DiMP said:
Since you are just getting into things, most recommended is safety gear and safety mindset. Ear and eye protection
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Great point for new people!

personally I really like my Walker's Razor ear protection for value
If you watch the Cabela's deals they regularly go on for 1/2 price
 
killingspree said:
Thank you. That concludes the type. i will go with 9mm especially, for ammo price and the club membership im planning to get (one which accepts new membership) is indoor.

i will get good eyes and ear protection.

I would like the compatibility with AR15 stock and accessories. Of course i want something reliable and easy to clean myself (DIY). Considering this, which is better ?

JC seems to be cheaper than Ruger. Fx9 is not in stock in most of the places so kind of ruled out.

Also, i should get M-lok model right ?
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The base Ruger is cheaper than the base JR but the Fully tactical Ruger is more than the base JR (if that makes sense)

The JR is a bit harder to clean vs Ruger but watch a few youtube videos and you will be fine. Just take your time!!]

These guys are a site sponsor and it comes with an optic. Looks like a good deal to me!
https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.co...model--9mm-18-5--black-jrc9g3cn10-tb-bl-.html

If you go ruger or JR you will need more mags. The best value is Magpul P mag. (they are the sweet spot. real glock mags are quite expensive and the made in china stuff garbage) i recommend between 4 and 6 mags.

The mag that comes with JR is cheap plastic
 
Jmcc said:
The base Ruger is cheaper than the base JR but the Fully tactical Ruger is more than the base JR (if that makes sense)

The JR is a bit harder to clean vs Ruger but watch a few youtube videos and you will be fine. Just take your time!!]

These guys are a site sponsor and it comes with an optic. Looks like a good deal to me!
https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.co...model--9mm-18-5--black-jrc9g3cn10-tb-bl-.html

If you go ruger or JR you will need more mags. The best value is Magpul P mag. (they are the sweet spot. real glock mags are quite expensive and the made in china stuff garbage) i recommend between 4 and 6 mags.

The mag that comes with JR is cheap plastic
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thanks.

https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/magpul-gl9-pmag10-fits-glock-19--9mm-10-round-mag907-.html

or

https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/magpul-gl9-pmag10-glock-17--9mm-10-round-mag801-.html

i need to get ?
 
killingspree said:
thanks.

https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/magpul-gl9-pmag10-fits-glock-19--9mm-10-round-mag907-.html

or

https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/magpul-gl9-pmag10-glock-17--9mm-10-round-mag801-.html

i need to get ?
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i had to google !!! i couldn't tell them apart

Designed to continue the tradition of high quality and high performance, the new PMAGs work alongside their designated Glock counterpart. The MAG907 delivers compatibility with just compact and sub-compact 9mm model Glocks while the MAG801 opens compatibility up to all 9mm Glocks including standard, compact and sub-compact.

so based on this get the 801 as it looks like it has better compatibility
 
A pistol round rifle cannot be compared to a medium range rifle round. For pistol rounds I have pistols. Maybe pistol ammo is cheaper but you also fire a lot more. Unless you are doing some kind of competition sports shooting, all PCC are only for good for one thing which is selling them.
 
9mm cost roughly half the price of .223 these days.

Out of those id choose the Ruger for a PCC and the BCL over the Kodiak for a .223 black rifle.
 
If you don't have specific needs the Ruger is a safe bet.

Maybe don't rule out 22LR if only shooting indoor short range? Competition, wilderness defence, pistol pairing all benefit massively from a PCC. Wallet not so much tho.
 
If all you want is a plinker then I would go with either the Ruger PCC or oddly enough a standard Chiappa M1-9 with either the wood stock or the regular polymer stock. The version that is picture (Post 7) costs more than the standard version of the M1-9 and adds nothing but useless bling to a plinker platform. The Chiappa will cost you less and do what you want it to do. The Chiappa will a lot less than any of the ones on your list.

For what its worth I am now looking for a Chiappa for a basic truck gun...think rabbits, coyotes inside of 100 yards.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
If all you want is a plinker then I would go with either the Ruger PCC or oddly enough a standard Chiappa M1-9 with either the wood stock or the regular polymer stock. The version that is picture (Post 7) costs more than the standard version of the M1-9 and adds nothing but useless bling to a plinker platform. The Chiappa will cost you less and do what you want it to do. The Chiappa will a lot less than any of the ones on your list.

For what its worth I am now looking for a Chiappa for a basic truck gun...think rabbits, coyotes inside of 100 yards.

Take Care

Bob
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The Chiappa M1-9 has a pretty nasty recoil, just so you know.
 
Ruger PCC IMO
Solid, easier to clean, cheap ammo, soft recoil.

But again it all depends on application of use. Can’t go wrong with any Ruger products really ;) Magpul Pmag is the go to fir sure!
 
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