The TT-33 In Ukraine

Does anyone recall the picture of bins of TT-33s going off to the smelter? I bet the Russians had kept them in storage.

I also think of our Canadians C1A1 FALs that got destroyed, after being all refurbed. And the nice little SMG. We could have given both to the Ukraine.

costs too much to store weapons your never going to use the military budget is as we all know very limited

Storing doesn’t cost much. You can fit 10 000 pistols in a garage. You do need to pay someone to remember where they are though.

I remember the Gwynne Dyer series about modern warfare in the late 80's. While Gwynne has turned out to be wrong on many levels about most things (and a bit of a closet lefty - gee, maybe that's how he got so much funding from the CBC for a series about warfare), there was a statement he made that has stuck with me ever since. "WW3 will be a 'Come as you are' war. Weapon systems have become to complex for the kind of mass production we saw in WW1 and WW2. The winner will be determined not by who can outproduce the other side, but by who already has."

I'm paraphrasing, of course, this was almost 4 decades ago that I watched that series.

Stockpiling weapons always seems like a poor use of resources. Right up until you need them.
 
I remember the Gwynne Dyer series about modern warfare in the late 80's. While Gwynne has turned out to be wrong on many levels about most things (and a bit of a closet lefty - gee, maybe that's how he got so much funding from the CBC for a series about warfare), there was a statement he made that has stuck with me ever since. "WW3 will be a 'Come as you are' war. Weapon systems have become to complex for the kind of mass production we saw in WW1 and WW2. The winner will be determined not by who can outproduce the other side, but by who already has."

I'm paraphrasing, of course, this was almost 4 decades ago that I watched that series.

Stockpiling weapons always seems like a poor use of resources. Right up until you need them.

He had that leather jacket he clearly grew out of with his big gut.
 
packing them transporting them warehouse space and servicing them every few years gets expensive. that's what I was getting at

Soviet doctrine on storing arms make gun smother gun is cosmoline pack in crate. Obviously they need warehouses but they built lots of them during the Cold War.

Their tank storage yards are extensive and they seem to be pulling tanks out of storage from somewhere.
 
Russian tank storage was not effective. Only a very small percentage of their t55 and t62 tanks could be fielded with minimal maintenance. Most are being sent to Kazakhstan for total refurbishment before they can be used. Many of them are devoid of needed parts because of years of parts robbing to keep other tanks going and corruption to steal and recycle valuable pieces.

This is why Russia can't seem to concentrate enough armor in Ukraine despite the size of their tank force in paper.
 
Russian tank storage was not effective. Only a very small percentage of their t55 and t62 tanks could be fielded with minimal maintenance. Most are being sent to Kazakhstan for total refurbishment before they can be used. Many of them are devoid of needed parts because of years of parts robbing to keep other tanks going and corruption to steal and recycle valuable pieces.

This is why Russia can't seem to concentrate enough armor in Ukraine despite the size of their tank force in paper.

Still beat the size of our tank force.
 
If they can canibalise half their T-55 force into working kit, that will be significant. They did make 100,000 of them. They probably don't have the resources to upgrade them with ERA and Stabber though.
 
I remember the Gwynne Dyer series about modern warfare in the late 80's. While Gwynne has turned out to be wrong on many levels about most things (and a bit of a closet lefty - gee, maybe that's how he got so much funding from the CBC for a series about warfare), there was a statement he made that has stuck with me ever since. "WW3 will be a 'Come as you are' war. Weapon systems have become to complex for the kind of mass production we saw in WW1 and WW2. The winner will be determined not by who can outproduce the other side, but by who already has."

I'm paraphrasing, of course, this was almost 4 decades ago that I watched that series.

Stockpiling weapons always seems like a poor use of resources. Right up until you need them.

Canada hasn't been serious about a domestic or international threat since at least the early sixties. I believe this is because of a liberal dominant culture (AKA: Communist's!) & warped sense of U.S. security... If Canada was thrown into a WWIII scenario tomorrow we'd be learning Russian real quick if not for the U.S. & to a smaller extent, NATO.
 
If they can canibalise half their T-55 force into working kit, that will be significant. They did make 100,000 of them. They probably don't have the resources to upgrade them with ERA and Stabber though.

Most of the t54/55’s were sold to other countries same with a lot of the t62’s t64’s and even a lot of the t72’s. A lot got left behind in former soviet countries after the fall of the Soviet Union. Just about every middle eastern country uses them or has used them.

Spread out but their is a lot more then we know about laying around from ww2 to now I don’t think the Russians have sold us much for surplus mostly former soviet states.
 
Plus it is easier to pistolwhip a melon with a steel pistol like a TT33 compared to a polymer frame pistol like a GLOCK.

I have a 1949 Russian TT33. Other than needing to wash it out after use and learning the hardware not to dryfire it (you can make a replacement firing pin retention pin by cutting down a proper sized drill bit and then duct tape over the slide to keep the retention pin in place - very ghetto) it has been a reliable pistol and a it's flat trajectory and penetration could be useful in some cir umstances.

Like an idiot I bought the 2280 round case od ammo when I bought and have a ton of it using up space in my ammo locker.
 
I have a 1944 Tula that was pushed out rapidly from the factory, because the finish of it is kind of rough. (That’s why I bought it, I love the history). It shoots a bit to the left, but it IS a Communist pistol, lol.
 
Like an idiot I bought the 2280 round case od ammo when I bought and have a ton of it using up space in my ammo locker.

I did the same. Last spring, I sold 1/2 the ammo (still in the can) for more than i paid for the pistol and ammo combined. So, you know, taking it as a win.
 
I did the same. Last spring, I sold 1/2 the ammo (still in the can) for more than i paid for the pistol and ammo combined. So, you know, taking it as a win.

I should do the same as I'll never shoot off the ~2000 rounds I have. I use it for taking friends and newbies to the range cause I have the ammo. Newbies start on .22LR then I move them up.
 
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