New bullet designs , what have they changed for you

[Spruster]

Going back many years all we had for a premium bullet was the partition and a good one at that . Since then the bonded , super bonded and mono's hit the scene .
Have they changed your choice of caliber / cartridge maybe . a 6.5 instead of a 7rm .
Has it changed whether you reload or , nah -- the factory ammo now is accurate / fast and sometimes unachievable.
Changed the way you hunt maybe .
The cup and core still there too , for sure
Your thoughts and stories

 

[iron cat]

The thing that has changed for me as far as premium.bullets go is my wife doesn't like to find bits of lead in the meat, so I shoot monometals .
Other than that, bullet design hasn't changed anything else for me .
Cat

 

[Joel]

I hunt with monometals only too now, pretty much. I like how they let me use lighter bullet weights and/or smaller calibers.

Any ammo from yesterday to a hard cast lead flat nose is still cool with me tho lol.

 

[Mr.Rigpig]

Without realizing it when I look at my "stash" on bench, it appears I'm switching over to Barnes tsx bullets. Anytime I buy components that seems to be what I get, or hard cast. Some of the larger calibers I've gone to a lighter bullet that can be run faster and flatter, being on the prairies and all. 300-350gr tsx in 458 Win mag, and 235gr tsx in 375 Ruger. There's not much in SE Sask that requires the heavy bullets with their deep penetration qualities, but I still want to shoot stuff with those rifles.

 

[Spruster]

Without realizing it when I look at my "stash" on bench, it appears I'm switching over to Barnes tsx bullets. Anytime I buy components that seems to be what I get, or hard cast. Some of the larger calibers I've gone to a lighter bullet that can be run faster and flatter, being on the prairies and all. 300-350gr tsx in 458 Win mag, and 235gr tsx in 375 Ruger. There's not much in SE Sask that requires the heavy bullets with their deep penetration qualities, but I still want to shoot stuff with those rifles.

lol ...good one

 

[pathfinder76]

I’ve used on game Speer Grand Slams, Hot Cores, and Boat Tails. Nosler Ballistic Tips, Partitions, Accubonds. Hornady Interlocks, SST, GMX, ELDX, ELDM, and Interbond. Barnes X, XLC, TSX, TTSX, LRX. Swift A-Frame, North Fork SS, Winchester Fail Safe and more I’m sure. Give me a bullet with a “fail safe” design any day of the week.

 

[Spruster]

I’ve used on game Speer Grand Slams, Hot Cores, and Boat Tails. Nosler Ballistic Tips, Partitions, Accubonds. Hornady Interlocks, SST, GMX, ELDX, ELDM, and Interbond. Barnes X, XLC, TSX, TTSX, LRX. Swift A-Frame, North Fork SS, Winchester Fail Safe and more I’m sure. Give me a bullet with a “fail safe” design any day of the week.

good list yes.. Give us your top 2 choices and why ..tks..do you still reload

 

[pathfinder76]

No top two choices, and yes.

 

[Spruster]

The thing that has changed for me as far as premium.bullets go is my wife doesn't like to find bits of lead in the meat, so I shoot monometals .
Other than that, bullet design hasn't changed anything else for me .
Cat

good point .I wonder how long is it gonna be be till we can't have the lead thingy ....

 

[MRP]

Never in 45 years have I ever found lead in my meat.
If you don’t won’t lead in your meat don’t shoot in the meat.
Heart/lungs or the head.
Anyone that claims a sub moa rifle has no excuse for shoulder shots.

 

[Joel]

People are not shooting their sub MOA rifle off a bench when they hunt Its interesting to see an X-ray of a chest shot and see just how far the lead particulate spreads. That bullets losing 30% or more of its mass, at incredibly high speed. Some of us do eat heart/liver too. Had a red deer liver a few weeks back from a control hunt that was awesome.


Not super worried about lead in meat for adult humans, more for the environmental effects for me. I mean, I can do with no lead in my meat just fine, but it really doesn't take much to jack up a bird at all. Organs/offal piles.

 

[250 sav]

Still use 165 interlocks in 308 and cup and core in 100 grain in 250 savage as my main rifles, for 30+ years it has worked to well to change. Do use 165 ttsx in my 300wsm. It works ok.

 

[ShrtRnd]

Of my “stash” on .308 stuff alone, at least a 1/4 to 1/2 of it is either Barnes TSX/TTSX, Partitions or ABs.

I do have Sierra GCs, Interlocks, BTs, and some Bergers.. ya know, just in case…

 

[brybenn]

Copper is toxic as well so there's that. I've found I'm slowly switching back to old school round nose heavy for caliber bullets for big game. They just work. Light fast hollow points for varmints

 

[Joel]

Copper is toxic as well so there's that. I've found I'm slowly switching back to old school round nose heavy for caliber bullets for big game. They just work. Light fast hollow points for varmints

Only about 1000-fold less so and doesn't accumulate in the body long term, but yeah lol

 

[Potashminer]

I am probably marketer's nightmare - I found various combinations that worked in the 1980's and 1990's and they still work fine. Sort of like fishing - when catching a bunch, tend not to change lure - is possible many others would also work well, but never comes to mind to find out. Hence, the 308 Win is still getting the 165 Speer HotCor that it did then, .338 Win Mag still using 200 grain Ballistic Tip, if I can find them, and so on. Versus my Dad who half the time could not even tell you what bullet weight was in the mix-mash that he loaded up his sporterized P17 with - I do not think it mattered much to him.

 

[Joel]

My pops the same way. If it says "303 British" and its got lead showing, it goes in the mag. Preference for 180 Core Lokt but there's probably 3-4 different brands of ammo in the same box he has.

 

[Eagleye]

Lead is toxic, no question. But metallic particles of lead pass through our digestive system with little
or no absorption into our bodies. Birds are different, and they do end up with lead in their system
which has been proven detrimental. I use some monometals, but still use plenty of Partitions and
bonded lead-core bullets. Our family grew up on game, and no test has ever revealed excess lead
in any of our bloodwork. I am convinced that the issue is vastly overblown, and will act accordingly. EE.

 

[Joel]

Lead is toxic, no question. But metallic particles of lead pass through our digestive system with little
or no absorption into our bodies. Birds are different, and they do end up with lead in their system
which has been proven detrimental. I use some monometals, but still use plenty of Partitions and
bonded lead-core bullets. Our family grew up on game, and no test has ever revealed excess lead
in any of our bloodwork. I am convinced that the issue is vastly overblown, and will act accordingly. EE.

Short of babies/young children and pregnant women, I think the same way, Eagleye. Would take a lot to harm an adult. That said, I don't mind ingesting none at all.

For the birds the problem is the crop...

Although admittedly I haven't had that one tested. I want to though.

 

[iron cat]

Never in 45 years have I ever found lead in my meat.
If you don’t won’t lead in your meat don’t shoot in the meat.
Heart/lungs or the head.
Anyone that claims a sub moa rifle has no excuse for shoulder shots.

I never mentioned shoulder shots , but at times that is the only shot you have and not everything is 100% all the time.
I have seen cup and core bullets break up or deflect from numerous things, from being deflected on a branch close to the Animal, to hitting ribs on a bad angle , to changing direction on entry for no reason.
My wife is not afraid of lead poisoning BTW, she just doesn't like finding fragments in her ground meat. I don't like digging it out of meat when I am butchering , either.
Cat