Best rifle scopes in the $200-$300 range?

The bulk of Vortex’s rifle scopes production occurs in China. This includes the Diamondback Tactical FFP (First Focal Plane), Strike Eagle, and Crossfire rifle scopes product lines. Asia seems to be the place for optics. In fact, Bushnell gets theirs from South Korea.

5 shot groups at 100 yards savage axis (not three shots) I get around MOA
5 shot groups at 200 yards savage axis (not three shots) I get 1.50 MOA

I heard directly from people who spent 2-3 hundred on their VORTEX and got rid of them because it started to attract flies at the range

You don't need to tell me the place of origin for a rifle scope. You just gotta let me know your judging criteria for a rifle scope. Do you care about light transmission and trackability at all?

You really had to specifically mention 5 shots group to make yourself feel better, who measures group sizes with 3 shots anyways? We usually shoot 1/2-1/4' groups at 100 yards, no wonder you only need a 3-9 Weaver on your rifle.
The fact that your groups expanded from 1 MOA to 1.5 MOA tells me a couple of things:
1. Your 100 yard result is not repeatable (damn I mean 1 MOA is bad enough already...)
2. Your crappy scope on the rifle does not allow you to have a precise aim at 200 yards
3. Your ammo could also be so bad that it caused significant extreme spreads in velocity

Hmmm, I wonder what is the main cause...Now I completely understand where the hatred came from...
 
Jeez there's some salty folks in here.

Redfield revenge
Bushnell elite, 3200, 4200
Bushnell legend ultra hd
Leupold vx1 and 2
Burris fullfield
Nikon monarch

Are all quality scopes in the op's price range. None are scopes that I would want to dial often for long range shooting but as a set it and forget it scope they would all do just fine.
 
You don't need to tell me the place of origin for a rifle scope. You just gotta let me know your judging criteria for a rifle scope. Do you care about light transmission and trackability at all?

You really had to specifically mention 5 shots group to make yourself feel better, who measures group sizes with 3 shots anyways? We usually shoot 1/2-1/4' groups at 100 yards, no wonder you only need a 3-9 Weaver on your rifle.
The fact that your groups expanded from 1 MOA to 1.5 MOA tells me a couple of things:
1. Your 100 yard result is not repeatable (damn I mean 1 MOA is bad enough already...)
2. Your crappy scope on the rifle does not allow you to have a precise aim at 200 yards
3. Your ammo could also be so bad that it caused significant extreme spreads in velocity

Hmmm, I wonder what is the main cause...Now I completely understand where the hatred came from...

At the beginning of my "shooting carrier" I put some rifles together to shoot as tight groups as possible. You know what? It is freakin boring. One hole into the next, then the next, and the next. Very exciting.

You spend thousands of dollars on a rifle and even more on a scope, good for you. Are you looking down on somebody who buys a Savage Axis? Sounds like it.
 
At the beginning of my "shooting carrier" I put some rifles together to shoot as tight groups as possible. You know what? It is freakin boring. One hole into the next, then the next, and the next. Very exciting.

You spend thousands of dollars on a rifle and even more on a scope, good for you. Are you looking down on somebody who buys a Savage Axis? Sounds like it.

Seems more like he was giving him the gears about saying vortex is trash and then touting his savage axis that shoots moa at 100 yards with a sweet Simmons scope that he tells everyone is the best. I could be wrong though. This thread is entertaining. I own no vortex for context. I used to. Now I wouldn't buy anything vortex unless it was a razor gen 2 or 3.
 
When I read some of these comments, I also wonder what kind of shooting they do.

Unless someone is doing super high grade long distance target shooting, at some point don't the tiny, incremental differences between one scope and another just become meaningless?

It's like with computers - when they first came out, they were slow enough that I could set something to load and go make a nice ham sandwich while I waited. Then they started to speed up, and you could easily see the difference. But after a while the computers got so fast, they started to be faster than a human brain can even think. And once you're beyond that point, further increases in speed become meaningless, because we literally cannot see the difference. It makes no difference to our brain that, technically, one computer was a millionth of a second faster than another!

In the same way, I have a feeling that once you pass a certain quality threshold - which I suspect almost all mainlstream commercially available scopes today would pass - I suspect that any of the tiny incremental improvements beyond that would be unobservable to most human eyes, and take up only the smallest portion of the pie-chart of excuses for why we just missed that shot!

In other words, I think the average shooter would be hard pressed to really see the differences between your average scopes.

That's why it seems like such a credibility-killing exageration to me when someone will say something totally dismissive, like "it's total junk" . Really? Total junk? Both those scopes are probably - in the grand scheme of things - better than anything our ancestors could have hoped for. They're both more than good enough for the average shooter's needs. Sure, one might actually be a little bit better than the other, but that hardly makes the other "total junk" ! The guy who finishes fourth at the olympics may not get a medal, but he's still better than almost every other person in the world!

Pick a brand and at what model do you draw the line that its not worth going above?
 
Jeez there's some salty folks in here.

Redfield revenge
Bushnell elite, 3200, 4200
Bushnell legend ultra hd
Leupold vx1 and 2
Burris fullfield
Nikon monarch

Are all quality scopes in the op's price range. None are scopes that I would want to dial often for long range shooting but as a set it and forget it scope they would all do just fine.
Solid suggestions.
 
Jeez there's some salty folks in here.

Redfield revenge
Bushnell elite, 3200, 4200
Bushnell legend ultra hd
Leupold vx1 and 2
Burris fullfield
Nikon monarch

Are all quality scopes in the op's price range. None are scopes that I would want to dial often for long range shooting but as a set it and forget it scope they would all do just fine.

Agree. Have owned (and still do) examples of each, no issues generally. Couple of bad Bushnells, but they were their bottom of the line stuff (ended up with a box of them at one time). On the other hand, one of those cheap Bushnell ended up on my 8 Rem Mag for a few years and never had an issue at all. - dan
 
You don't need to tell me the place of origin for a rifle scope. You just gotta let me know your judging criteria for a rifle scope. Do you care about light transmission and trackability at all?

You really had to specifically mention 5 shots group to make yourself feel better, who measures group sizes with 3 shots anyways? We usually shoot 1/2-1/4' groups at 100 yards, no wonder you only need a 3-9 Weaver on your rifle.
The fact that your groups expanded from 1 MOA to 1.5 MOA tells me a couple of things:
1. Your 100 yard result is not repeatable (damn I mean 1 MOA is bad enough already...)
2. Your crappy scope on the rifle does not allow you to have a precise aim at 200 yards
3. Your ammo could also be so bad that it caused significant extreme spreads in velocity

Hmmm, I wonder what is the main cause...Now I completely understand where the hatred came from...

It's a 400 dollar hunting rifle with a pencil barrel not a 5k rig
Hopefully you will understand that a hunting rifle is not a precision rifle
 
It's a 400 dollar hunting rifle with a pencil barrel not a 5k rig
Hopefully you will understand that a hunting rifle is not a precision rifle

Hopefully you will understand that it is not about your rifle, hopefully you can use your brain to figure out what I was saying.
I didn't mention a single thing regarding your rifle, this is why I came to the conclusion about you and your non-sense claims...
 
Jeez there's some salty folks in here.

Redfield revenge
Bushnell elite, 3200, 4200
Bushnell legend ultra hd
Leupold vx1 and 2
Burris fullfield
Nikon monarch

Are all quality scopes in the op's price range. None are scopes that I would want to dial often for long range shooting but as a set it and forget it scope they would all do just fine.

try to get your monarch serviced ... great rifle scopes but no warranty anymore ...
 
I think the idea with a hunting scope is that you’re hoping to pay for a scope that won’t need serviced. I’d almost prefer a scope that’s seen a bit of being bumped around and held zero. I do believe that Nikon will cut you a check for failure too.
 
It's a 400 dollar hunting rifle with a pencil barrel not a 5k rig
Hopefully you will understand that a hunting rifle is not a precision rifle

Solid, true statement.
I still need to hit a grapefruit sized target out to a max of 250 yds. though.

So a combo of gun, scope, ammo and practice all play a part.

A savage axis, elite 3200, premium ammo, range time.
These 4 things will get you the accuracy needed for that distance.

You do not need a Tikka, leupold combo for that.
 
Solid, true statement.
I still need to hit a grapefruit sized target out to a max of 250 yds. though.

So a combo of gun, scope, ammo and practice all play a part.

A savage axis, elite 3200, premium ammo, range time.
These 4 things will get you the accuracy needed for that distance.

You do not need a Tikka, leupold combo for that.

x2!
 
People get caught up in the long range shooting and the tinny groups at 100yards! When in reality most games( all of the one I shot anyway) are well inside 250 yards and at that distance a 2-3 moa is plenty good to harvest game ethically if you are insistant and you know where to place that bullet!! Remember that minute of moose and minute of possums are not the same minutes of angle!
 
I've got a Ruger Ranch in x39 and my Range is only 180 yds. Using an old Bushnell 3-9x40 duplex scope I can keep ca 2" with Chinese MS ammo. Good ammo is prob better but the best I have is Barnaul SP, not much better than ChiMS. ("S" is with my SKS irons, POA about 8" below center page)
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