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pathfinder76 said:
Jim, use your head. No one blamed their equipment. This isn’t something that happened on their first trip out. But it happened and a child can see that an enclosed trigger in blowing snow at the end of October on the side of a mountain might cause a problem. And it did.
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Wow Wow Chuck ! Hold up Buddy where did i ever say it was there Equipment :confused: I said BAD Luck . Lol. RJ

PS Chuck ! Watch your TALKING DOWN to me in the future or we won’t be Friends anymore ! :mad:
 
Joel said:
<snip> but perhaps not all are created equal.
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And that’s the reality of this subject IMO. For both design types. From the ice/snow/dirt testing I’ve seen and read, some enclosed type triggers are much less susceptible to failure. Many AR15 trigger packs, Accuracy International, Sako TRG & Tikka T3x are generally at the top in terms of reliability.

I have and like old style M70 triggers- the design is hard to beat for field serviceability- but my Tikkas have never been a problem either. I’ve seen a few triggers freeze up- 1 Kimber 8400, 1 Browning BLR & 2 Rem 700. Truthfully, slightly more care taken in use, I doubt they’d have frozen.
 
Just a note, I don't think I've ever had a trigger freeze up even in a Manitoba winter. I usually clean with brake cleaner and lube with a dry film protectant - I'm a big fan of Hornady One-Shot (not the case lube) as it flashes quickly and protects very well.

I've also done the same to Tikka T3X bolts as there's been rumors they like to have light strikes in cold temps due to live freezing on the firing pin spring - super easy to pull apart, hose them down, spray the metalwork, let it flash off, and reassemble.
 
The older Winchester triggers were really good. It was simple to regulate and they never issued any problems......why fix something, if not broke? However, Arnold Jewel and Trigger Tech manufacture excellent triggers. Triggers on manufactured rifles are not to my liking, among other components, nothing out there is truly great as aftermarket triggers.
 
mikeyb said:
Just a note, I don't think I've ever had a trigger freeze up even in a Manitoba winter. I usually clean with brake cleaner and lube with a dry film protectant - I'm a big fan of Hornady One-Shot (not the case lube) as it flashes quickly and protects very well.

I've also done the same to Tikka T3X bolts as there's been rumors they like to have light strikes in cold temps due to live freezing on the firing pin spring - super easy to pull apart, hose them down, spray the metalwork, let it flash off, and reassemble.
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Cool! Saw a video from a Canadian retailer on Youtube showing how to do the exact same thing
 
I’m not talking about maintenance in any of this. I’m talking about freezing water getting into a trigger mechanism. I live in a climate that can have wicked blowing snow at negative ambient temperatures where snow is melting at the same time (you can avoid this by sitting on your couch). Yea, take care of your stuff. But also use the best tool for the job. It’s kinda like the Remington 700 extractor is great argument. It is exactly that until it isn’t.
 
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I have had enough creepy gritty old style M70 triggers that needed to have the sears worked on to gladly take a trigger of the enclosed variety.
 
Could it be that the Rem 700 arrangement, particularly the open slot for the safety, simply allows more water to enter the system than do other setups? Otherwise in actually looking at it, I don't see why it has failures in winter where other enclosed triggers are undeniably reliable...which says the problem isn't an enclosed trigger in and of itself, but that there is some aggrivating factor.

Buckmastr, yeah...the "from the factory" trigger on an open style 70 is kinda junk lol. They smith up nice but they need it
 
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