Looking for a couple components Dacron and tin

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getting flanged up to start loading for my .500 BPE and need to find Dacron and tin yet. I can find both online but the Dacron that I have found only comes in a pretty big roll for what I need and the tin bars are pretty pricey (running $20/lb +- plus shipping). My wife went to fabricland and they said they never heard of "dacron" before (?????). Been searching for scrap pewter but, again, pretty pricey, (mostly in the $20/lb+ range). Before pulling the trigger on these two item]ms from the sources I have found I thought I would ask in case there is a better source that I am not aware of. Are these just what guys are paying or am I missing a better source??
 
I'm surprised you found tin for $20/lb. I thought it was running about $38.

Pewter or cheap solder remnants at junk stores and garage sales. Not many other places to look that I'm aware of these days.
 
I buy from Rotometal. You can have the alloy you want 1-16, 1-20 and it is clean, free of any contaminants.
I stopped chasing junk lead. They ship FedEx to Canada..
 
Go to Fabric land and buy a bag of pillow stuffing it’s Dacron I use it in my 470 NE. As far as tin find someone that has access to scrap nickel Babbitt from old bearings
 
Yes I know it is pillow stuffing but want to get branded "Dacron" so I know it is not something that is going to melt in the bore and fabric land had never heard of it before. they PROBABLY have it but, like I said I don't want to take the chance of getting something sold as "pillow stuffing" that is NOT Dacron and may melt.
 
Janeau said:
I buy from Rotometal. You can have the alloy you want 1-16, 1-20 and it is clean, free of any contaminants.
I stopped chasing junk lead. They ship FedEx to Canada..
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Just looked them up. Not too bad on the pricing but with USD/CAD conversion and shipping might get a bit pricey. I have a LOT of lead otherwise I would certainly go that route.
 
spooksar said:
Go to Fabric land and buy a bag of pillow stuffing it’s Dacron I use it in my 470 NE. As far as tin find someone that has access to scrap nickel Babbitt from old bearings
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Makes me nervous when they can't say WHAT exactly it is. I agree that what they carry is likely Dacron but the results if it turns out to be a plastic based substitute that melts would be devastating.
 
You might consider an alternate to Dacron for filling space in your load - was a book "Shooting the British Double Rifle" by G. Wright - the writer used "shipping peanuts" - most common that I saw were styrofoam - so likely not what you want - but he was using "shipping peanuts" made from vegetable fibre - I got a bag full some years ago - was a thought that I had to make reduced loads in a 458 Win Mag - needed a filler to do that. Most writing mention to use Dacron or kapok for that - but apparently is other alternatives. Like you, I would be concerned whatever gets used does not melt upon firing!!
 
Licensed to kill said:
@ 20-1 a few pounds should be lots, even a pound would make up close to 450 bullets and I don't think I will be shooting this thing THAT much. maybe 100 rounds to dial in a load then a shot or two each year hunting.
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Maybe check the math? A pound is 7,000 grains - will make 450 x 15.55 grain bullets. I think .500 BPE was more typically like 440 grain bullet - so more like 15 or 16 bullets to the pound.
 
Licensed to kill said:
I agree that what they carry is likely Dacron but the results if it turns out to be a plastic based substitute that melts would be devastating.
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Oh, now that's funny. What exactly do you think Dacron is, that you are afraid of "plastic-based substitutes"?

'Dacron' is DuPont's registered tradename for polyester, which is a plastic. There will be no functional difference between polyester plastic from DuPont and polyester plastic from anybody else.
 
Potashminer said:
Maybe check the math? A pound is 7,000 grains - will make 450 x 15.55 grain bullets. I think .500 BPE was more typically like 440 grain bullet - so more like 15 or 16 bullets to the pound.
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At the start of what you quoted he mentioned 20-1, meaning a 20:1 ratio of lead:tin. So 1lb tin + 20lbs lead = 21lbs bullets = 320 bullets
 
BattleRife said:
At the start of what you quoted he mentioned 20-1, meaning a 20:1 ratio of lead:tin. So 1lb tin + 20lbs lead = 21lbs bullets = 320 bullets
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Yes, and they are 325gr bullets so.....21lbs total alloy x 7000=147,000 grains divided by 325grains per bullet = 452 bullets. Of course there will be a bit of "waste" at the end with the last few sprues so that is why I said "close to 450".
 
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BattleRife said:
Oh, now that's funny. What exactly do you think Dacron is, that you are afraid of "plastic-based substitutes"?

'Dacron' is DuPont's registered tradename for polyester, which is a plastic. There will be no functional difference between polyester plastic from DuPont and polyester plastic from anybody else.
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Try reading my entire post, ".........plastic substitute THAT MELTS" (emphasis added since it apparently got missed when in lower case). Yes, I am aware of what Dacron" is (I looked it up before searching for it online), that is why I stated "that melts". Some plastics will melt, some won't. Dacron obviously won't since it is used all the time for the application that I am interested in. Others might (will) melt and I am not interested in "experimenting" with my Alex Henry double rifle.
 
Since Dacron melts at 260 degrees C. It's obvious its going to melt as powder burns at around 3000 degrees so basically you need to rethink your replies . The filler will be burnt instantly when you fire a round off.
 
Yes the Dacron will melt, but that is the beauty of using it in reduced smokeless loads...it vaporizes in the heat & leaves no residue. any carbon that remains is easily wiped out.
But I have a question for you, as this is a .500 "BPE" round, are you loading with BP or smokeless...if you are loading with BP I would seriously reconsider not using Dacron as a case filler. When that Dacron vaporizes on ignition of the powder it won't act as a case filler for black the same as a veg wad or cornmeal will....essentially you will have a reduced BP round with no case filler that history shows it will absolutely result in a bulged or burst barrel.
 
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