22 for Deer

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I think many a critter even elk/moose size have been shot off horses with .22's out west here, well I know so, knew older fellas and was told the stories, forgot the placement told to me but believe it was 40 gr solids behind the ear or something like that for the elk stories anyway, apparently dropped quit a few that way. If they can do the record grizzly and also routinely steers then deer don't really stand a chance at 50 yards if you know where the off switches are.

And I get grief for shooting a 6.5 Grendel lol...good lord, I'm shooting a magnum by comparison, even a magnum in comparison to a .223 where guys are killing elk to 400 with 77 gr tmk's without issues.

no one is recommending anything lol, definitely a popcorn thread as facts are stated and people say it's impossible and the ethics discussions go nuts lol

is this a spruster thread? ;)
 
blakeyboy said:
I think many a critter even elk/moose size have been shot off horses with .22's out west here, well I know so, knew older fellas and was told the stories, forgot the placement told to me but believe it was 40 gr solids behind the ear or something like that for the elk stories anyway, apparently dropped quit a few that way. If they can do the record grizzly and also routinely steers then deer don't really stand a chance at 50 yards if you know where the off switches are.

And I get grief for shooting a 6.5 Grendel lol...good lord, I'm shooting a magnum by comparison, even a magnum in comparison to a .223 where guys are killing elk to 400 with 77 gr tmk's without issues.
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So yeah pretty much anywhere you can put an ice pick that will also instantly kill. Count me in as not in any rush toward "that should be legal!"

The 223 and 77gr TMK is a whole 'nother tale!
 
MiG25 said:
In BC, at least, the 22 Rimfire was banned for Big Game as a Roadblock, almost anyone could afford one and it's shells, not for any lack of effectiveness. The ban was for 22 Rimfire, the others; 25, 32, 44, etc remained legal until post-WWII when "22 Rimfire" morphed into "Rimfire"

Borrowed this from the 'net, appears to be a Mossberg with the tenite forend.

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such a badazz pic, on the hood of the truck, .22...love it
 
I once killed a deer with a 12 gauge and a STS trap load of 7 1/2s.
It was laying in the middle of hwy 43 with broken legs and my clays gun was what I had on hand.
It worked. Range was ….well, pretty close.
Muzzle velocity was 1100 fps. ME with 1 1/8 load way higher than a 22 LR.
So 22 LR or 12 gauge trap loads or neither?
Looking back given that it was dark on a busy highway and an animal was suffering horribly I likely had the exact right tool for the job.
Instant kill. No ricocheting.
Doesn’t mean I would ever hunt deer with 7 1/2 trap loads.
 
DOUGLAS D said:
I once killed a deer with a 12 gauge and a STS trap load of 7 1/2s.
It was laying in the middle of hwy 43 with broken legs and my clays gun was what I had on hand.
It worked. Range was ….well, pretty close.
Muzzle velocity was 1100 fps. ME with 1 1/8 load way higher than a 22 LR.
So 22 LR or 12 gauge trap loads or neither?
Looking back given that it was dark on a busy highway and an animal was suffering horribly I likely had the exact right tool for the job.
Instant kill. No ricocheting.
Doesn’t mean I would ever hunt deer with 7 1/2 trap loads.
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I'll file em both on "works for mobsters in the back seats of cars, but you better hit the animal in the same place" lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4vm71lki5g

Lots of super effective 22lr on display here. Lookit those massive wound channels lol.

Should kill about as quick as leukemia if you miss the brain or an absolute heart stopper.
 
I used to hang around with a guy many years ago . his father was a WW2 vet and a very heavy drinker . probably to forget. anyways I can remember him driving down the road in his 1970ties 2 door Chrysler new Yorker and sticking the barrel of a single shot Cooey 22 out the window and shooting deer. then throw it in the trunk to take it back home . drunk as a skunk . he told me he used to shoot it at the top of the back then go cut it's throat . tough old bird he was.
 
blakeyboy said:
I think many a critter even elk/moose size have been shot off horses with .22's out west here, well I know so, knew older fellas and was told the stories, forgot the placement told to me but believe it was 40 gr solids behind the ear or something like that for the elk stories anyway, apparently dropped quit a few that way. If they can do the record grizzly and also routinely steers then deer don't really stand a chance at 50 yards if you know where the off switches are.

And I get grief for shooting a 6.5 Grendel lol...good lord, I'm shooting a magnum by comparison, even a magnum in comparison to a .223 where guys are killing elk to 400 with 77 gr tmk's without issues.

no one is recommending anything lol, definitely a popcorn thread as facts are stated and people say it's impossible and the ethics discussions go nuts lol

is this a spruster thread? ;)
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NO , but I see I'm in your thoughts ..lol
 
Buckshot is legally required in some areas of BC, I would submit that from 20-50 yards the 22 LR (with hollowpoints) and especially the 22 WMR are superior to 00 Buck on Deer, based on what I have seen on the pattern board and shooting beef and various other things, both animate and not.

Guys place way too much faith in the Game Dept and their motives. Some guys will even claim the 22 Centerfires are inadequate because they are illegal in some Jurisdictions.
 
When I lived in Fort Simpson, NWT I knew an older Indian lady who routinely hunted moose with a Remington Nylon 66. Her technique was to sneak up to about 50 yds from the moose, wait till he turned broadside, then give him the whole magazine full in the ribs as fast as she could pull the trigger. Then build a small fire and brew up a cup of tea. After about an hour she would go looking for her moose. Most times found them dead within 100 yds. She said never follow them immediately, as they can go quite a ways if you push them. Leave them alone and they will usually lie down within 100 yds. and bleed out from 3 or 4 .22 rounds through the lungs. I am not endorsing this method of hunting, but that was the only gun she owned, and she fed herself for quite a few years.
 
daddylonglegs said:
When I lived in Fort Simpson, NWT I knew an older Indian lady who routinely hunted moose with a Remington Nylon 66. Her technique was to sneak up to about 50 yds from the moose, wait till he turned broadside, then give him the whole magazine full in the ribs as fast as she could pull the trigger. Then build a small fire and brew up a cup of tea. After about an hour she would go looking for her moose. Most times found them dead within 100 yds. She said never follow them immediately, as they can go quite a ways if you push them. Leave them alone and they will usually lie down within 100 yds. and bleed out from 3 or 4 .22 rounds through the lungs. I am not endorsing this method of hunting, but that was the only gun she owned, and she fed herself for quite a few years.
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John Barsnes wrote an article about hunting in the artic (for muskox or caribou I think?) His old Inuit guide told him that he would hunt polar bears with a 22 WMR. One or two shots in the lungs from pretty close range then hide until the polar bear wandered off and eventually died and he would go collect his bear. The bear would feel only a little sting and forget about it. No trees for the bear to hide in and blood tracking in snow is pretty easy so I can see how his method had merit.
 
MiG25 said:
How do we know that say within 50 yards a 22 hollowpoint isn't effective on deer?

I shot Super X Hollowpoints into wet newspaper and was impressed. And it'll arguably penetrate better than 00 Buck.
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I know from 50+ yrs of hunting in rural areas that the .22 rimfire inside 50 yds has served me better on deer than any single one of my centerfire rifles. My first couple of deer were taken in our flower bed in front of the house from a bedroom window at 10 ft using CIL high speed shorts. I bonked them through the top of their skulls as they were feeding on the flowers.

I used .22 LR after that when sneekin' the woods for "deer of opportunity". My load preferences being mainly standard velocity 40 gr, non-plated bullets. Then along came Remington with the Yellow Jacket load which is a great performer with basal shots on critters bigger than deer (As in pigs & cattle.) in a rifle that works well with 'em. I never bothered using CCI Stingers though on critters larger than raccoons.

Sure miss them days. Uugh. f:P:
 
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Shot a raccoon last night in the chicken feed bin and his body absorbed 3 hollow points at a foot away till he could get his head in my view . My first 2 dear a long long time ago were with a 22 but both were head shots and small deer.
 
Raton57 said:
Shot a raccoon last night in the chicken feed bin and his body absorbed 3 hollow points at a foot away till he could get his head in my view . My first 2 dear a long long time ago were with a 22 but both were head shots and small deer.
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American Eagle?
 
"It's like Blaze Orange, that was brought in to make Hunters visible to the Game Warden, not for any sort of "Safety"."

"Fact remains, the 22 was banned in BC as a Roadblock to those of lower economic status."

thanks for the chuckle, pass the foil
 
Have a feeling dudes who have hit deer with 00 buck at 20 yards ain't gonna complain. You can piss on them from that far.
 
boxhitch said:
"It's like Blaze Orange, that was brought in to make Hunters visible to the Game Warden, not for any sort of "Safety"."

"Fact remains, the 22 was banned in BC as a Roadblock to those of lower economic status."

thanks for the chuckle, pass the foil
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This is from the US, think its a "safety feature"?

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