I think that's another aspect of the "guarantee" if the rifle is sub MOA in a machine rest, when talking about hunting rifles, which is what he is talking about. Is a machine rest sub MOA guarantee worth anything if a hunter using a rifle that is considerably lighter than a target rifle cannot make a sub MOA group despite using a good rest and good technique? I'm not talking about a box of ammo a year hunter that uses a sand bag or some improvised rest and no rear bag can't shoot a MOA group, either!
That would be a big problem if most, or even many of the rifles were as described.
Have a feeling that hunter, being a very capable shot, finds a factory ammo/handload combo he likes, the majority of the time. And if it takes some searching, "rifles can be picky" is a known phenomenon.
If not, he sells it and moves on, as happens sometimes. Sometimes he even tells the buyer it wasn't particularly accurate hahaha.
A few get sent back in annd exhanged.
But all of this hinges on most rifles not being the kinnd that barely hold a 3 shot, sub moa group when fired from a machine rest, and I think that's the case.
I first bought a Sauer 100 in 6.5x55 and with good ammo it would average around 1 moa 3 shot groups. They advertise 1 moa accuracy guarantee. I later bought the same rifle but in 7mm Rem. Mag. this rifle would not shoot close to a 1 moa group with any ammo or bullet weight I tried. I sent it back for warranty, the warranty gunsmith testing it could not get any better accuracy than I could and Sauer replaced the rifle. The replacement rifle was slightly better but very inconsistent, I managed to get one group that was about .6 moa then the very next group I shot, same ammo, same conditions was almost 4 moa. This is off a bench with proper benchrest bags and almost zero wind and cooling the barrel between shots. Out of the six groups, average was very close to 2 moa. Basically a 2 moa rifle. As goofy as some think the guy in the video is, he speaks the truth.
Sounds like two trash rifles in a row. Sorry man.
If my bolt gun randomly spat nearly 4 inch groups at 100 yards I'd be pretty pissed.
One like that really skews a testing average though.
Actually, that’s not what he’s saying at all. What he is saying is that there are some, I repeat some, rifles capable of doing it. For all of the rifles he’s owned/shot, he has one that will do it consistently with ammo that he has obviously tried on multiple occasions. If you take anything away from the video, take away the fact that when he averaged ALL of the groups he’s shot out of ALL the rifles he’s tested he came up with a 1.8” average. Almost 2 MOA.
Going with the above, what happens if you remove the two worst stinkers? The average is 1.8" but we're not seeing any other stats. Some error bars would be nice haha.
But either way, its that shooter, and usually 3 particular kinds of ammo.
No one guarantees "Hey, THAT guy can shoot SUB moa groups with any ammo he wants!". People shouldn't need to be told that....but then people believe all sorts of weirdness about their rifles. And their shooting ability lol.
