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By dint of seeing advertisements for the sale of antique handguns with modifications to accessible calibers, don't come crying if the bans are reinforced.


we really have no enemies, but irresponsible people
 
Sorry, what are you saying? Antique handguns have been converted to chamber modern rounds (that are not on the no-go list), such as 45ACP for well over half a century. It doesn't mean you can shoot modern ammo in them. It's just easier to find loading components.
 
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Trying to hide under the stairs and hope the boogie man doesn't get you along with the rest of your family,friends and neighbours is cowardly if you can do better.
 
Lol @ OP.

I would consider you an enemy of humans rights if that post is indicative of your attitude.
 
To be fair to the OP, I fully understand his feelings. There are many examples of people discussing some of the various in's and out's of our terrible gun laws.... things the anti folk would call "loop holes".

The thing is, gun owners are running out of territory to our rear.... there is no longer a place to retreat to or a rock to hide under.
 
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To be fair to the OP, I fully understand his feelings. There are many examples of people discussing some of the various in's and out's of our terrible gun laws.... things the anti folk would call "loop holes".

The thing is, gun owners are running out of territory to our rear.... there is no longer a place to retreat to or a rock to hide under.
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We will see soon , When it’s too late
 
mauser71 said:
We will see soon , When it’s too late
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Something's coming that's for sure.... good times or bad? That's up to each one of us to choose and hopefully unite around.

Oliver Anthony's viral release of his song "Rich Men North of Richmond" last week is proof positive that there is a bunch of pent up resentment and hunger for change among the silent majority of Americans and it seems to be resonating all around the world!

Covid was bad enough, then sending Billions to feed the Meat Grinder in Ukraine while there seems to be no money to deal with real problems at home is hard to explain other then someone at the top is only looking out for #1.

The tide is turning. The media is trying to blame right wing influences for a first time release on youtube from an unknown singer songwriter's song going to number 1 on Itunes in less then a week and having 4 million views in 3 days... now 13 million 3 days later!

It's not about left and right, this song is resonating with common people today.

 
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What language is this in??
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If your referring to Oliver Anthony's song it's in English, You can click on the closed caption button and it get's most of the lyrics correct.
Easier to read as you listen for sure on some of the lines..... I couldn't quite make out "bags of fudge rounds" till I read it!
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"Rich Men North Of Richmond"

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bull#### pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't #### and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't #### and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bull#### pay
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MosinMan13 said:
Unrelated but just wondering if you have a license to serve that koolaid you’re on?
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To have fun ask to rcmp if you are supposed to use antique handgun and where.

After that you will see what i mean

I am just an old hillbyllies from city, usual doing what i want and ask no permission to have fun .

Like usual , people is stupid and open door to give more and more restrictions.

Don’t cry !
 
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Unrelated but just wondering if you have a license to serve that koolaid you’re on?[/QUO

IMHO
We are only one sloppy antique hand gun owner away from his/her kid, being caught, in a school yard "incident" and having "karen" getting on the war path against antiques.
Guarranty most, by far, canadians don't know or would even believe antique gun laws. I also believe that the vast majority would see it (or be told by media) as a huge loop hole that could be exploited by the gangs etc.

Those, paying attention, already know rcmp tec's have made their own changes to antique calibre designations.
Doesn't take any amount of koolaid to believe they are fully on board with more negative change.
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Scamaniac said:
I understand your concern but believe it’s misplaced. Read post number 2 and let it sink in. Gangbangers are the entire pistol violence problem and they aren’t going to be reloading reduced loads for their antique pistols.
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If what you are saying is true, why are they coming after my NR firearms now?
It's just the excuse they are using to disarm all of us.
 
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Pete04 said:
MosinMan13 said:
Unrelated but just wondering if you have a license to serve that koolaid you’re on?[/QUO

IMHO
We are only one sloppy antique hand gun owner away from his/her kid, being caught, in a school yard "incident" and having "karen" getting on the war path against antiques.
Guarranty most, by far, canadians don't know or would even believe antique gun laws. I also believe that the vast majority would see it (or be told by media) as a huge loop hole that could be exploited by the gangs etc.

Those, paying attention, already know rcmp tec's have made their own changes to antique calibre designations.
Doesn't take any amount of koolaid to believe they are fully on board with more negative change.
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Well your argument is certainly tenfold more coherent than the OP.

I don’t see it though, and I could be wrong, but I firstly don’t see anyone with the amount of investment antiques take to not just own, but readily use, being sloppy with them. I mean personally, especially in this inflated era of antique prices, my antiques are the most valuable property I own, not just monetarily but in being irreplaceable in most cases.

Then you consider the odds said owner is that sloppy, and has readily available ammunition accessible to it, or the kid/individual has that ancient knowledge on utilizing all the said materials. Essentially without that, they have a prop, which more or less accurately describes what these are, because by Canadian law they are nothing more than items resembling firearms until used in a criminal manor.

The odds of these on the streets? I can’t imagine high. I don’t know the street price of illegal handguns, but I can’t imagine they cost more than legal handguns otherwise we’d have seen more stats on legal gun owners being involved in crime (especially involving handguns) which we know is not the case. That said, the antique handgun market is massively inflated, for a bunch of good reasons partially including our recent political changes. If an antique is worth 4 times it’s (legal but frozen) equivalence, plus the gear needed to make it functioning usually insanely high as well (if you can even find the components at all) than you’re talking about a massive financial and time constraint to essentially possibly fire upwards of 6 shots in a lesser state of accuracy or lethality. There’s just no way that math adds up for a criminal, and any of the inert antiques seized in the hands of criminals can’t often be traced to a Canadian owner so there’s no saying they lead back to us.

The few pistols I know which shoot modern ammunition (I believe this was more the OPs concern) are still rarely proofed for modern smokeless, and even if they are, still taking a huge risk in being a 100+ year pistol, used and abused, proper service knowledge long since lost, and essentially obsolete.

All that under consideration, plus the current government starting to crumble before our eyes, I don’t think we need to worry any more than any of our other firearms.
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Check out antique storage. Basically needs to be unloaded.
Any kid/teen could have access and may be thinking more of show and tell to friends at school rather than criminal intent.

Hand gun in a school yard doesn't need to be loaded. Anemic as, some claim, that may be, it will certainly raise a sh!t storm with karen and crew.

I've owned dozens of antiques and restricteds over the years. My own family can't see any real difference between a Swiss M1882, French M1892 and a S&W M10 Victory made in the '30's.
I know for a fact that the toronto police service here have no idea of the difference and in fact don't care.
The chief firearms officer of tps could not recognize a Webley MkI in a case I'm familiar with. The Chief Firearms Officer!
What do you figure the school principal will conclude??

So I'm hoping this never comes to be but surly folks can see how this could happen.
 
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