Agree entirely. Live as a 12(3) that MP40 should sell for $3 to $3.5K, and that is a "premium" price given the shenanigans surrounding the processing of 12(3)s by the RCMP Lab these days. Most 12(3) and 12(5) sell for considierably less these days. I paid well under $1K for my 3 most recent FN FALs as just one example. The smaller the potential pool of owners, the lower the price ought to be. Which is why Deacs sell for so much these days - anyone can own one with no license required and no government oversight.
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Agree entirely. Live as a 12(3) that MP40 should sell for $3 to $3.5K, and that is a "premium" price given the shenanigans surrounding the processing of 12(3)s by the RCMP Lab these days. Most 12(3) and 12(5) sell for considierably less these days. I paid well under $1K for my 3 most recent FN FALs as just one example. The smaller the potential pool of owners, the lower the price ought to be. Which is why Deacs sell for so much these days - anyone can own one with no license required and no government oversight.
As a 12.2, there are even fewer people / businesses that can purchase that MP40. Then, of the few people who CAN buy it, only a very small number WANT to buy it and even fewer still can AFFORD to buy it or are WILLING to spend the money on it.
I'm not sure what the cost to nicely dewat such an item would be? But that cost has to be deducted from what the family will get out of the estimated $4k value as a dewat.
Even then, I'm not sure it would be worth $4k as a dewat. An M3 Grease Gun dewat just sold on ####### for only $2400. Is an MP40 more desirable than a Grease Gun? There were way fewer M3's made than MP40's but the MP40 is an iconic SMG of WWII.
I'm not sure what the cost to nicely dewat such an item would be? But that cost has to be deducted from what the family will get out of the estimated $4k value as a dewat.
Even then, I'm not sure it would be worth $4k as a dewat. An M3 Grease Gun dewat just sold on ####### for only $2400. Is an MP40 more desirable than a Grease Gun? There were way fewer M3's made than MP40's but the MP40 is an iconic SMG of WWII.
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^ Switzer's sold both a dewat and two 12.2 mp40 this Feb. You can see how much each went for. The seller would get 15% less. The buyer would pay 15% more + taxes for their jurisdiction.
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The US has many different classes of machine guns. "Fully transferable" ones that anyone can own are closed in number, they are the ones that command high prices.
But "dealer samples" can be imported and traded between dealers. These are a much lower price.
Most of us who have been around guns for a few minutes know very well how the US system works. So, I am not sure what your point is/was? When families of the deceased in Canada are looking at US pricing they invariably think of Transferable US pricing as realized at the various US Auction Houses or on Gun Broker. They aren't looking at Dealer Sample pricing when dreaming (incorrectly) about a big Canadian Prohib payday.....
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Only saying that as far as the US is concerned, I believe they can be imported there. Not commenting on what anything may be valued at.
That would be super interesting to see what those guns sold for.
About $3800 plus the fees.
No, we were still shooting FA's in the 80s and early 90s. Then the cfo's stopped issuing att's.- dan
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Museums or gunsmiths that own these still can (if they have a range) since no ATT is needed for them. Most notable examples are from when Forgotten Weapons were filming at Marstar. Last I was shooting a 12.3 gun was last month.
If you know a smith with prohibited privileges you can send them your prohib to be tested. You won't be able to shoot it though since their ranges are for employees only.
Hahahaha! Like I would ever ship one of my 12(3)s to someone else so that THEY can shoot it. Never happen in a million years. If I'm not firing, neither is anyone else, and that's a fact.
We went to FA shoots in AB in the very late 90's to maybe the early 00's. I don't remember when the last one was.
Aside from my military service, I have shot a ton of different, interesting and rarish FA's thanks to those FA shoots.
The last one run in MB was "Machinegun '98" at John Hipwell's (Wolverine Supplies) on-site range. I was range staff for that one, which is why I clearly remember the year. No FA shoots after 98 - at least in MB.
$3500 and $4500 I believe
