The next cartridge you would like Hornady to develop

Buckmastr said:
Lots of new cartridges out there. Most catering to fast twist high bc bullet target shooters. Lots of overlap case capacity wise.
But one is like to see is a lengthened 223 type case, further even than the 222 Rem Mag which will push a 50 gr 22 cal bullet to 4000 fps. Or necked up to 6mm would be a nice deer gun. The small bolt face world is a wonderful place to be ime. Brass is easily sized, pushed pressure wise, lots of unused mag box, great barrel life.
Since the 204 Ruger nothing really has been changed in this class of cartridges.
Tell me your feelings.
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I built a Hagn in close to what you’re suggesting, 5.6x50 magnum. It’s just a stretched .222 Magnum, but it’s only good for 3600-3700fps at 50grs. Still, notably more than the .223.

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I'd be interested in a .308-7mm PRC as it would fit in this Tikka action I have. I know I could do a .30 Nosler, but something on the 7mm PRC would be in the Goldilocks zone IMO. Non-rebated rim, modern case geometry, good powder capacity, handles high BC bullets without eating powder space, designed for a 3.340" OAL. The Nosler is a bit too much of a good thing (especially brass prices, although Nosler brass > Hornady brass).

Northern Shooter said:
A 375, 458 or 500 PRC.
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A .375 PRC would be the same as a .375 Ruger. .300 PRC is made by necking it down. There's also a .416 which is a doozy.
 
Ardent said:
Somewhere unable to dig for it at the moment, it’s just a .222 Rem Mag stretched another 1/8”. I even used a .222 Rem Mag reamer run deeper to chamber it. Has a fairly long neck compared to the .223 and could be Ackley’d to get really close to the performance you have in mind.
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Gotcha. A 223 Rem AI reamer run deep and fireformed with 222 Rem Mag brass might get me there too. Interesting high-end single shot build. Could work in a repeater bolt gun too.
 
Buckmastr said:
Lots of new cartridges out there. Most catering to fast twist high bc bullet target shooters. Lots of overlap case capacity wise.
But one is like to see is a lengthened 223 type case, further even than the 222 Rem Mag which will push a 50 gr 22 cal bullet to 4000 fps . .22-250 is already available and well twisted to push 50 gr. from 3800 to high 3900 fps.

Or necked up to 6mm would be a nice deer gun. Their last 6mm was a bit of a flop; let's confuse the market even more. The small bolt face world is a wonderful place to be ime. Brass is easily sized, pushed pressure wise, lots of unused mag box, great barrel life. No substitution for case capacity, and easy sizing?.
Since the 204 Ruger nothing really has been changed in this class of cartridges.
Tell me your feelings.

This seems to be the way lately; develop an "new" cartridge, then get someone to build a rifle for it, and sell it to a bunch of people who believe everything that they read while having little real world experience.

Instead, why not have a firearms manufacturer develop rifles to better utilize already good calibers to optimize a lot of the improved bullet technology?

A good example would be the .22-250; put a fast rifling barrel on a rifle to better utilize heavy bullets. It has the potential to be flatter shooting with a lot of punch as a hunting rifle, and with long skinny bullets, lots of long medium to long range target capability.

Their 6.5 creed is already waning in popularity, and renewed interest in classic calibers like the .260 and 6.5 x 55; modern rifles designed for "modern" pressures, with appropriate twist rates are becoming available, and performance equals the "Johnny-come-lately" creed in the case of the older .260 Remington, and is substantially exceeded in the case of rifles built to handle the higher pressure SE designated ammo in modern rifles built to the standard.

I have tried a number of their bullets as well in various rifles, and they rarely perform as well as the old stand-by makers like Sierra and Speer etc.
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Buckmastr said:
Gotcha. A 223 Rem AI reamer run deep and fireformed with 222 Rem Mag brass might get me there too. Interesting high-end single shot build. Could work in a repeater bolt gun too.
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Seeing as it’s still actively produced and popular in Germany, probably easier to get 5.6x50 Mag than .222 Rem Mag, I’d go that way and run your .223 AI reamer deeper using the longer brass if it was of interest.
 
Ardent said:
Seeing as it’s still actively produced and popular in Germany, probably easier to get 5.6x50 Mag than .222 Rem Mag, I’d go that way and run your .223 AI reamer deeper using the longer brass if it was of interest.
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Agreed. Read a bit about it and that is a long, small bolt face case for sure. Finding brass will be the trick here.
 
The 30 Newton. A 110 year-old, modern magnum with out a belt. Exactly the same case capacity as a 308 Norma.
 
I used the S&B, my Hagn was set up to use with the rimmed or rimless case 5.6x50, I went rimmed as it was easy to find in Canada. Brass was good quality, S&B.

As for the original thought in the thread, I have a soft spot for classics, and would like to see 6mm Lee Navy get a revisit. Way ahead of its time. .318 Westley Richards deserves a relaunch too, was the .338-06 A Square before it that existed.
 
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