BCL Siberian 1000 round range session - awful results

I think you underestimate how many businesses and people are involved with CFET testing. It is 100% supported by volunteers and those who contribute PPE, ammo and time. We sent in a bunch of PPE from our business and have provided logistical support where we can with previous tests undertaken by them. It is done entirely because the makers of these firearms either don't test them or don't make those tests public. Your continued comments are a good source of entertainment however. If you don't like it, it must be made up and crazy (despite them recording all 1050 rounds on video and stopping every time something happened to explain it and show it in greater detail).

I have never heard of you. What other businesses are involved or is this a secret?
 
lol this Scianna dude gotta have some vested interest with BCL, the amount of coping is palpable

Nope, I don't even own a Siberian. Just having fun unravelling the obvious.

I see you are in BC as well. Let me guess. Quesnel.

Dude, get ready for snow shoveling, do some exercise.
 
Nope, I don't even own a Siberian. Just having fun unravelling the obvious.

I see you are in BC as well. Let me guess. Quesnel.

Dude, get ready for snow shoveling, do some exercise.

What's with coming up with these random scenarios in your head? Are you a schizo or something? Not everything is a plot when these guns are ####.

I'm in Victoria, literally the least amount of snow in the country. Nice try tho buddy
 
Mr meat shower, question for you... How many of the stoppages were created by the mags in use? I would've appreciated a breakdown in the description or video of how many and what type of stoppage. I've had an equal number of stoppages in the same number of rounds with a C8, caused by a bad batch of Pmags.
There's another review on YouTube that does a "torcher test" and he deems the rifle "unsafe" after the bolt shows signs of wear. It likely wouldn't "wear prematurely" if rocks and dirt weren't crammed into the open ejection port lol. Most people conduct those tests with sand or mud. Certainly not judging, I appreciate all the effort to properly test these rifles, just need to be conducted in a thorough manner that gives them validity when compared to other brands. Appreciate your time and effort, the video was entertaining and you got my sub.
 
Mr meat shower, question for you... How many of the stoppages were created by the mags in use? I would've appreciated a breakdown in the description or video of how many and what type of stoppage. I've had an equal number of stoppages in the same number of rounds with a C8, caused by a bad batch of Pmags.
There's another review on YouTube that does a "torcher test" and he deems the rifle "unsafe" after the bolt shows signs of wear. It likely wouldn't "wear prematurely" if rocks and dirt weren't crammed into the open ejection port lol. Most people conduct those tests with sand or mud. Certainly not judging, I appreciate all the effort to properly test these rifles, just need to be conducted in a thorough manner that gives them validity when compared to other brands. Appreciate your time and effort, the video was entertaining and you got my sub.

So, we experienced double feeds, failure to extract and feeds with all the mags used (stanag/usgi style, pmags, both gens of crossmags). The one failure that seemed exclusive to a certain type of mag was the random bolt locks with both gens of crossmags. Hoser Gun Guys test is the one you’re speaking of. My understanding is that the wear he’s talking of was before the mud/dirt test. He’s spoken about it a few times on the Modern Canadian Shooter Podcast. Given his professional background in machining, I would take his word on it. All that being said, crossmags are one of the most popular brands of magazines in Canada. My MCR has only had the classic over insertion issue with them. But it has never had random bolt locks or any of the other failures displayed in the video. Speaking to other people that run crossmags in other platforms like the R18, Tavor/X95, APC, Wk180 series of rifles, they didn’t experience the same things we did with the BCL Siberian. As for corrective measures for BCL, I don’t have the knowledge or qualifications to really give that. My goal was to simply see if the sample gun provided could be reliable when handling a large volume of fire in a short amount of time, and to share my findings.
 
Awesome, appreciate the response. This thread needs a little less negativity, so I'll end off with; thank you guys for doing the public the service of testing and producing good quality content, and hopefully BCL takes notes.
Cheers
 
Awesome, appreciate the response. This thread needs a little less negativity, so I'll end off with; thank you guys for doing the public the service of testing and producing good quality content, and hopefully BCL takes notes.
Cheers
No problem dude. As disheartening as the results were, it was a good time doing it all.
And yeah, the usual schizo grandpa showed up and did his usual thing. What can ya do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
No problem dude. As disheartening as the results were, it was a good time doing it all.
And yeah, the usual schizo grandpa showed up and did his usual thing. What can ya do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh, we are into the chapter of personal insults now? Enjoy life dude, cause judging by your weight and high blood pressure, you won't make it past 50.
 
Some guys had no issues with their WK180s over a few thousand rounds too. And holy hell did those simps try to discredit the people that had serious issues.

Every rifle has its duds. The big question - is this rifle an isolated POS or are the problems common enough to be concerned?
 
Oh, we are into the chapter of personal insults now? Enjoy life dude, cause judging by your weight and high blood pressure, you won't make it past 50.

Given your insistence on blowing up in this thread, you my friend are the one who should be worried about your blood pressure. seriously, who pissed in your cornflakes?
 
Some guys had no issues with their WK180s over a few thousand rounds too. And holy hell did those simps try to discredit the people that had serious issues.

Every rifle has its duds. The big question - is this rifle an isolated POS or are the problems common enough to be concerned?
Now THAT is the million dollar question. Personally I’ve heard mixed results. There's examples of guys running their SRV2s in competitions or while training in their own time and having a fairly positive experience. But there’s also just as many who have had results similar to what I experienced. The fact that this wasn’t a cherry picked gun from FOC makes me believe that it’s a “some-a times maybe good, some-a times maybe ####” kinda deal on what you get. Time will tell. I just hope that there’s a revamp of the SRV2 that corrects all the mistakes that have been found so far.
 
I have no doubt that this rifle had it's issues but many others, including the one I had did not have any. I don't remember which mags worked but some showed problems, also it did not like some ammo. I really like the Fiocchi and most of my guns too, so instead of buying the cheapest ammo (Tenda has 1,000 rounds now for $599), I just buy what I have had great experience with. Nothing more frustrating than a range day with lots of problems. Maybe it is a combination of all. I prefer bolt action rifles these days, semis just tend to be more costly to operate and lag accuracy.

But one thing I have to agree with "grandpa scianna". Many posts and bashing by people with a very low post count but years of membership. I tend to be careful with those people and what they say.
 
You have to remember that a lot of bad press comes from people with no Siberian experience and have problems spelling the word. Many people post negative comments because they have a friend or a cousin or heard it at the range etc.

Anyone who posts a review should start by clearly stating their personal experience. If they have none it might be better for all if they kept their opinions private.
 
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