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Apologies if this is not applicable as I have not read the whole thread but this is exactly what happened to me and the initial batch of Type 97s imported by Lever Arms in Vancouver.

They wanted to confiscate without compensation. I took it as far as having a date for a court hearing before a judge to see if a case court case was justifiable. Before this happened I was informed that they would fully compensate owners. Long story short I did have to give it up but did receive the full purchase price back from the government.

You may be able to use this argument as precedent setting particularly as it was their mistake in the first place.

At the time there were only 60 rifles and the goverment was conservative. They approved the refunds because they were looking out for firearms owners. I don't think the liberal goverment will be so inclined. Not to mention these rifles are much more expensive 2-3k and there were 250+ imported. So easily 1 million$ or more for compensation.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-gun-confiscations-prompt-legal-fight-1.958226
 
I have a strong suspicion (based on historical precedent) that NS will absolve themselves of any blame, putting it on the government. The CFC will say in turn that it is NS fault as the Importer and Distributor, putting it back on them. The only resolution is likely to come from a Class-Action Lawsuit against North Sylva. They can sort it out with their insurers and/or by taking the RCMP to court if they think that they have a strong case. As for any harm that might come to NS as a result? That is is THEIR problem, directly arising from business that they conducted for (no doubt) considerable profit. Presumably they have insurance, no?

You might buy a lot of guns bit how much do do you actually know about the gun business? I'm not here to defend NS but I hate it when people go off on tangents based on knowledge they think they have. No insurance company is going to cover you for this, if you know of one please tell me the name, I will use them immediately. As for great profit, you're of the mark again. Nothing comes cheap out of Israel, at least not since they emptied their warehouses of surplus firearms back in the 80s. On average mark ups are in the 20% range from manufacturer to distributor to dealer to consumer.
 
You might buy a lot of guns bit how much do do you actually know about the gun business? I'm not here to defend NS but I hate it when people go off on tangents based on knowledge they think they have. No insurance company is going to cover you for this, if you know of one please tell me the name, I will use them immediately. As for great profit, you're of the mark again. Nothing comes cheap out of Israel, at least not since they emptied their warehouses of surplus firearms back in the 80s. On average mark ups are in the 20% range from manufacturer to distributor to dealer to consumer.

Ok fine, but either way NS is gonna be on the hook. They need to take responsibility for this f+ck up. Maybe the RCMP is wrong, in that case NS needs to take them to court. Either way I am not going to hand in a 3000$ rifle without compensation from someone.
 
I will eat my sweaty work shirt if anyone wins this, not many have had luck going against the ruling Canadian Junta. I would frame any sort of court case as looking for financial compensation.

No one will win…but you do get to keep using your rifle for another year or two until it’s settled…and maybe by then a friendlier govt is in power and who knows…
 
Ok fine, but either way NS is gonna be on the hook. They need to take responsibility for this f+ck up. Maybe the RCMP is wrong, in that case NS needs to take them to court. Either way I am not going to hand in a 3000$ rifle without compensation from someone.

I'm not sure if you are aware but most of them were imported by Impact Outdoors who sold them to dealers. North Sylva brought some in as well but Impact is the company that imported most of them from my understanding.
 
Either way I am not going to hand in a 3000$ rifle without compensation from someone.

Ok, but just wait until (after 30 days) the police knock at your door to collect it and arrest you for having it.
How much is your $3000 rifle worth to you then? Now you have $10,000 court bills, loose the rest of your guns, and have a record.

Sure, do all we can to get compensation, but people who are blind to the reality when the clock runs out will pay the price. (No it's not good, but that's how the regime works)
 
Before the pitch forks and torches come out keep in mind that this kind of crap has been happening since the 80s, I know, I've lived it many times over.

The importers bring these in in good faith, no one will willingly bring in something that they know will create a veritable shtstorm down the road. It happened with the MP5s, Thompsons and Uzis that were sold in the late eighties and early 90s for instance.

Importers play by the rules, jump through the hoops and occasionally get screwed because someone didn't perform due diligence.

The powers that be don't care who's fault it is because there are no provisions in the firearms act to compensate people when the Govt screws up.

You can harp on North Sylva and even try to take them down to make yourself feel better, only thing is you're shooting yourself in the foot when you make it your goal to destroy what is probably the largest distributor in Canada. See what the selection in your local gun store will look like afterwards.

A measured and sober take with the long history of firearms in this country in mind. Appreciate it. Sure hope North Sylva will have similar patience with customers.
 
The shipments obviously had legit paperwork, if you think some bloke working the border is going to have the expertise to inspect a rifle to determine if it's capable of full auto I have some ocean front property in Sask to sell you.

Tell me more about this ocean front property in Saskatchewan you have for sale! I must have it!
 
I was warned by a lawyer to be VERY CAREFUL on this because if any of us go to court willy nilly and mess up - we could #### up any chance of a good court case being heard.
A lot of people filing and messing up could create precedents...

do not put the fear in people doing s74 ... never heard anything our cases related to s74. you have people that challenged s74 in courts, some others that were scared to do so and some others that complaint we did so ... choose your camp.
 
do not put the fear in people doing s74 ... never heard anything our cases related to s74. you have people that challenged s74 in courts, some others that were scared to do so and some others that complaint we did so ... choose your camp.

Hey man I'm not here to argue with anyone, nor am I going to tell people what to...

But this was what Runkle of the Bailey / Varsil said and he's the subject matter expert:
If you want to challenge this, please, please please HIRE A LAWYER WHO KNOWS THE AREA.

My current court challenge on the OIC "nullifications" was largely ####ed up before I even got into a courtroom by a ton of people who ran things on their own and lost, creating a precedent.

This is not a place for amateur ####ing around, because you screw things up for gun owners as a whole.

Take it for what you will I suppose, but be smart about it is all I ask.
 
So how many of these have been used ins. Crime? NONE. Proof we can own them and be good :)

I think we should be looking at the timing of all this. Dont you find it suspicious that they suddenly realized this the same month that the amnesty is over and C21 is in the Senate?
 
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