13 inch MSW IWI X95 Tavor now Prohibited

Concerning Ian Runkle's video it was incredibly dissapointing to see. He accepted the premise of the guns being misverified. He was really hoping to get some customers, and also said it will hurt gun owners to pursue the importers!! Wow to me he lost credibility.

His job is not to tell you what you want to hear it’s to tell you the reality of the situation as someone who does this for a living. I was also disappointed in regards to what he said but that’s what happens when we are legitimately being controlled by a tyrant government. Our main priority should be to elect a conservative government going forward and hope for the best. I would also suggest refusing to cooperate with their confiscations but that will land people in a heap of legal trouble and could potentially ruin your life so that is terrible advice. All we can really do is wait right now. But yes, calling this weapon full auto is horse #### in my opinion.
 
Just for clarity, these are infact prohibited.

"Legally", probably. I see what you mean, I do and I'm like 95% agree. However there are couple of things that might change it, and I'll keep them private for the ppl who would be doing challenge. Not everything should be discussed in public.
 
https://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/26777-wts-israeli-tavor-x95-factory-parts-kits-price-varies/

Just for clarity, these are infact prohibited. Even if they came from the factory as semi-auto, they would not pass the Hasslewander test as not being “readily and easily converted to automatic fire”. It really sucks, but it is what it is, and I’d hate to see someone waste their time and money trying to fight this, when the time and money could be better put to use. If I had to bet, I’d say the importers are trying to work with the rcmp so that they can export them to the European market where they can be sold commercially. I’m that case, it would make it much more easy for the importers to compensate the individual owners.

Sounds like practice for the buyback :S
 
Sounds like practice for the buyback :S

Exactly, that's why if everyone shows non compliance now they may realize a full scale confiscation cant work. If everyone immediately buckles and hands in their rifles, it will only embolden the liberal party and their personal police force. Having to arrest law abiding citizens because the govt made an error would also look extremely bad so i highly doubt theyd go that route.
 

Runkle is wrong on this one.

These x95's are not converted autos. They were never full auto and never had full auto trigger packs installed. They were semi only.

It is a possibility that a full auto pack and bolt carrier can fit into this version. We'll have to wait and see.

Either way its a fustercluck.
 
Exactly, that's why if everyone shows non compliance now they may realize a full scale confiscation cant work. If everyone immediately buckles and hands in their rifles, it will only embolden the liberal party and their personal police force. Having to arrest law abiding citizens because the govt made an error would also look extremely bad so i highly doubt theyd go that route.

Ah, so if I understand you correctly, Tavor X95 MSW owners should sacrifice themselves on the altar of Erroneous Lieberal Firearms Policy in order to send the message that the larger body of Canadian firearms owners will not comply with a general confiscation program. Do I have your intentions correct? If so, you can pound sand 'cause that's NOT gonna happen,,,,

I will take a S74 Challenge as far as it will go. If I lose and am ordered to comply I will turn in a stripped and saw-cut X95 MSW Receiver to the AB CFO at the latest possible date. I live on a fixed disability income and have a family to support. I cannot afford to have my bank accounts frozen, nor my larger firearms collection dicked around with. I suggest that all owners of the Tavor X95 MSWs do a similar assessment of the personal risk that they are able to accept and draw their personal limits accordingly. It is also worth remembering that the People who suggest that others do all of the heavy lifting are seldom around to help out when things go South. You will be on your own unless you have the financial means to retain legal counsel. I don't have the $$ for a second, lawyered S74 challenge, but perhaps apexanimal would be willing to fund my legal ride....
 
Ah, so if I understand you correctly, Tavor X95 MSW owners should sacrifice themselves on the altar of Erroneous Lieberal Firearms Policy in order to send the message that the larger body of Canadian firearms owners will not comply with a general confiscation program. Do I have your intentions correct? If so, you can pound sand 'cause that's NOT gonna happen,,,,

I will take a S74 Challenge as far as it will go. If I lose and am ordered to comply I will turn in a stripped and saw-cut X95 MSW Receiver to the AB CFO at the latest possible date. I live on a fixed disability income and have a family to support. I cannot afford to have my bank accounts frozen, nor my larger firearms collection dicked around with. I suggest that all owners of the Tavor X95 MSWs do a similar assessment of the personal risk that they are able to accept and draw their personal limits accordingly. It is also worth remembering that the People who suggest that others do all of the heavy lifting are seldom around to help out when things go South. You will be on your own unless you have the financial means to retain legal counsel. I don't have the $$ for a second, lawyered S74 challenge, but perhaps apexanimal would be willing to fund my legal ride....

Oh trust me, your "larger firearms collection" is guaranteed to be dicked around with, because why wouldn't they if you just instantly hand in legally purchased private property out of fear. The amnesty ends oct 30th so dont act like you're in any special case here, the majority of gun owners are going to have to decide if they hand in their lawfully purchased property and cuck themselves out of fear, or peacefully refuse as many did in NZ. I am most definitely putting my money where my mouth is. If enough do the same it could actually help us achieve some meaningful victories ie a permanent amnesty for a start. I am more than willing to be arrested for owning property i legally purchased, and for people to witness news articles about how retarded our laws are if theyre arresting disabled veterans (you're not the only one, crazy!) while people are being killed by criminals in big cities every day with seemingly no consequences. Not everyone will be willing to do this and that's fine, but dont act like it's a virtue.
 
This thread is in the G4C Sports business forum, started when a member reached out to the business.
How about keeping general discussion of the issue in one of the numerous threads in the discussion forums, rather than cluttering up a business forum?
 
Thanks for moving the thread.

As a reminder for how much support gun owners can muster for their "pet causes" a pretty significant case of a gun club challenging the CFO's power of dictating conditions for range use and winning.

Never reached its fundraising goal of 60k (raised 44k) to cover legal costs at the same time gun owners purchased guesstimating at least 100k handguns.

So gun owners have money to spare for toys, but none to spare for actual legal battles that did do something.
 
Ah, so if I understand you correctly, Tavor X95 MSW owners should sacrifice themselves on the altar of Erroneous Lieberal Firearms Policy in order to send the message that the larger body of Canadian firearms owners will not comply with a general confiscation program. Do I have your intentions correct? If so, you can pound sand 'cause that's NOT gonna happen,,,,

I will take a S74 Challenge as far as it will go. If I lose and am ordered to comply I will turn in a stripped and saw-cut X95 MSW Receiver to the AB CFO at the latest possible date. I live on a fixed disability income and have a family to support. I cannot afford to have my bank accounts frozen, nor my larger firearms collection dicked around with. I suggest that all owners of the Tavor X95 MSWs do a similar assessment of the personal risk that they are able to accept and draw their personal limits accordingly. It is also worth remembering that the People who suggest that others do all of the heavy lifting are seldom around to help out when things go South. You will be on your own unless you have the financial means to retain legal counsel. I don't have the $$ for a second, lawyered S74 challenge, but perhaps apexanimal would be willing to fund my legal ride....

Marc, I am with you 100% in how you are going to handle this. While I don't have a dog in this specific race (Tavor X95) I have enough "scary guns" that the Feds already know about. Not only is personal collection at risk but also my business that has significant investment in the firearms industry. I have a problem with the Feds telling what to do with my guns but even a bigger one with other people telling me what and how I should risk my property and freedom. Phil.
 
Marc, I am with you 100% in how you are going to handle this. While I don't have a dog in this specific race (Tavor X95) I have enough "scary guns" that the Feds already know about. Not only is personal collection at risk but also my business that has significant investment in the firearms industry. I have a problem with the Feds telling what to do with my guns but even a bigger one with other people telling me what and how I should risk my property and freedom. Phil.

Just to clarify because you're referring to me in a very passive aggressive way without really understanding anything i said at all; i said and i quote "that's why if everyone shows non compliance now they may realize a full scale confiscation cant work" Somehow this was construed as me telling everyone what they HAVE to do?... Note, i am not nor have i ever TOLD ANYONE WHAT TO DO. Simply stating an opinion that, such as in NZ, mass peaceful non compliance does severely limit what the police can actually do. So if you actually truly believe what i said makes me worse than the "feds telling (you) what to do with (your) guns", that's simply hard to comprehend and seems based purely on emotion. Im not interested in arguing with anyone, just clarifying that i am not nor was i ever telling anyone what to do, as i dont like being attacked based on inference, especially when it's second hand.
 
Just to clarify because you're referring to me in a very passive aggressive way without really understanding anything i said at all; i said and i quote "that's why if everyone shows non compliance now they may realize a full scale confiscation cant work" Somehow this was construed as me telling everyone what they HAVE to do?... Note, i am not nor have i ever TOLD ANYONE WHAT TO DO. Simply stating an opinion that, such as in NZ, mass peaceful non compliance does severely limit what the police can actually do. So if you actually truly believe what i said makes me worse than the "feds telling (you) what to do with (your) guns", that's simply hard to comprehend and seems based purely on emotion. Im not interested in arguing with anyone, just clarifying that i am not nor was i ever telling anyone what to do, as i dont like being attacked based on inference, especially when it's second hand.

Don't flatter yourself as my comment was directed to Marc ,who I consider a friend. Your previous comments had no bearing on my response. Phil.
 
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