Looking for a 10mm or 45ACP Glock for ATC

^^^To be expected I guess, honestly I’d price mine high if I were going to sell. But I’m not, I will be holding on to what I got. If I’m successful with the atc application I’ll be buying a few more appropriate calibers than 10mm, regardless of the price.
 
Just shy of $900 cad before the freeze came into effect, saw another one for $1100 at the same time. Ad extra mags and a KKM barrel and holster to the equation and your well past $1500.

I would expect to pay a lot more now for just the pistol, if you can find one that someone is willing to sell.

Why do you need a barrel? There is absolutely nothing wrong with a stock Glock unless you insist on running loads that are well beyond the pressure limit, which is commonly done through ignorance but still stupid.
 
Why do you need a barrel? There is absolutely nothing wrong with a stock Glock unless you insist on running loads that are well beyond the pressure limit, which is commonly done through ignorance but still stupid.

Because I hand load and will also be be shooting cast lead bullets, polygonal rifling and heavy cast lead aren’t recommended and factory unsupported chambers are hard on brass life. Going to a KKM with the supported chamber is the way to go if you reload or shoot cast and jacketed bullets, if all I wanted to shoot was factory ammo I’d stick with the factory barrel. There’s enough videos out there of less than stellar accuracy from heavy cast lead projectiles and the factory rifling/barrel, traditional rifling works well.
 
Staying within published loads I have never had an issue (except one Hodgdon subsequently revised at a much lower charge). When I was following all the dumb loads from forums and winging it myself, I did. I ended with thousands and thousands of rounds of testing, dozens of pages of documentation and chronograph data backing it all up. If your brass bulges you are too hot or something is wrong with your gun.

Polygonal rifling handles lead fine if you can manage cleaning it within reasonable round counts. I did have poor accuracy with 220/230grn lead but who uses that anyway? Takes up too much room. This nonsense is one of the many reasons I refuse to believe anything I read on forums outright without testing it myself.
 
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Staying within published loads I have never had an issue (except one Hodgdon subsequently revised at a much lower charge). When I was following all the dumb loads from forums and winging it myself, I did. I ended with thousands and thousands of rounds of testing, dozens of pages of documentation and chronograph data backing it all up. If your brass bulges you are too hot or something is wrong with your gun.

Polygonal rifling handles lead fine if you can manage cleaning it within reasonable round counts. I did have poor accuracy with 220/230grn lead but who uses that anyway? Takes up too much room. This nonsense is one of the many reasons I refuse to believe anything I read on forums outright without testing it myself.

Every piece of brass I fired out of the factory barrel had a bulge at the case head, factory or handloads regardless of powder charge. I’m not loading hot and am under factory velocities on the chrono, once I switched to the KKM the glock smile immediately disappeared. Accuracy was good with the factory barrel but I’ll take the benefit of the KKM any day of the week.

I will be shooting heavy lead projectiles once I find a 220gr mold, for now everything from 165gr to 200gr gets shot through it. Believe what you want, I know what I’ve experienced in my specific gun. Why glock can’t offer a fully supported barrel and standard rifling is retarded.
 
If .357 is the min then the cfo saying .45 is acceptable should be taken with some scepticism, I just looked through the WATC application and my course textbook from last winter and they specifically say .357 is the min for the BC/Yukon application. .45 auto is well under the .357 in both MV, OGW and kenetic energy, so cool your jets lol.

This was all covered in the wilderness atc course, you took it right?

Don't forget that CFOs and their staff come and go, and the 'rules' are interpretations and somewhat arbitrary.

For example there was a time (mid-2000's?) when BC ATC holders were being held to wheelguns only, I think during the time they were being issued out of the Edmonton office, which throws in another variable. Same with the Proof of Proficiency tests, at times any "Range Officer" at an approved range could conduct one, other times it had to be a use of force instructor.

It has been fairly consistent since 2015 but my point is to not rely on individual experiences or hearsay on what does or does not fly in an application. The only thing that has remained consistent is that I don't know of anyone who qualified for a permit (under their criteria) who was turned down.

As an aside, I know of at least one 38 sp and a 9mm that made it onto permits, and 45 ACP (other than when autos were not accepted) has never not been approved, in BC/YT anyways.
 
Don't forget that CFOs and their staff come and go, and the 'rules' are interpretations and somewhat arbitrary.

For example there was a time (mid-2000's?) when BC ATC holders were being held to wheelguns only, I think during the time they were being issued out of the Edmonton office, which throws in another variable. Same with the Proof of Proficiency tests, at times any "Range Officer" at an approved range could conduct one, other times it had to be a use of force instructor.

It has been fairly consistent since 2015 but my point is to not rely on individual experiences or hearsay on what does or does not fly in an application. The only thing that has remained consistent is that I don't know of anyone who qualified for a permit (under their criteria) who was turned down.

As an aside, I know of at least one 38 sp and a 9mm that made it onto permits, and 45 ACP (other than when autos were not accepted) has never not been approved, in BC/YT anyways.

Yeah it seems very case but case, the bc cfo seems to be open to interpretation of the listed regs if you can make a valid case for it. Chest rig vs. holstered on the hip, etc. Our course instructor had examples of a couple local ranchers that held atc’s that had successfully gotten permission for certain things.
 
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