New hunt camp Bancroft

How far south of Bancroft. Is the property inside of the proposed Algonquin land claim area. If so you could run into issues trying to run a hunt camp.
 
canadian hunter312 said:
Considering how much wood the average house uses each winter any trees that are already down will be rotten before your intended hunters get around to needing all that wood. Some of the trees I cut up for firewood would take a few big pickup loads per tree. IMO firewood just isn’t valuable enough to entice someone to go through the effort of driving deep into the bush multiple times for some firewood. You also need to consider that most locals in remote areas already have hunting land access meaning your hunters will likely be driving a considerable distance to get there thus making it pointless to bother with firewood.

I also think 6-8 cabins is way too many for that size land. Maybe 2-3 tops?

It sounds like you’re trying to make as much return as possible from your land which I totally understand. But I can’t think of anyone I hunt with who would bother driving anywhere north for 50-100 acres to hunt.
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Yup, better off doing things to attract more wildlife and calling it a high end huntcamp. A shower cabin would also be a big bonous
 
bush1 said:
Lots of good posts here and yours is as well. Agreed that it would be a bad idea to separate hunters and give them only certain areas. Some would be better spots than others and that would cause friction.
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Exactly that. I used to hunt with a guy, you could put him on the best spot in the world and he’d still think someone else’s spot was better and go wandering around messing with other people’s spots/hunt.

Just about got us shot on a deer hunt in Michigan…
 
Conquest66 said:
My thoughts were to provide a high end bunkie at or near the hunt location. If a hunter is offered 50 acres of land for a private hunt with bunkie, then I can trade that for 2 weeks of work?
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50 acres is too small an area and with no fences or easy markers, people will wonder off their spot. You are better off building a main camp/lodge and renting the entire property to a group of 6 or 8 hunters.

As for the firewood, finding a smaller outfit that does firewood and not logging for lumber might be an option. Most hunters/groups would give you a work weekend, but clearing that much wood is a deterrent for people that just dont have the time and are lucky to get a week away for hunting season.
 
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ff33 said:
How far south of Bancroft. Is the property inside of the proposed Algonquin land claim area. If so you could run into issues trying to run a hunt camp.
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The land claim targets crown land and parks, private land is not part of it, but that could change in the future.
 
Conquest66 said:
My thoughts were to provide a high end bunkie at or near the hunt location. If a hunter is offered 50 acres of land for a private hunt with bunkie, then I can trade that for 2 weeks of work?
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3 weeks off work is a lot of time
Many don't even get that much vacation time and it likely wouldn't go over well at home with a wife and kids
 
Conquest66 said:
My thoughts were to provide a high end bunkie at or near the hunt location. If a hunter is offered 50 acres of land for a private hunt with bunkie, then I can trade that for 2 weeks of work?
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You really need to reconsider your plans. Not to be rude, but you have no clue what you’re doing and are on the path of spending a lot of time and money for little to no return. Nobody in their right mind is going to travel anywhere to hunt a tiny 50 acre area for 1 week in return for 2 weeks of their time/labour. That is a half hour deer drive/push or one tiny spot to sit in a stand all week. Quite honestly, the only way you might get 2 weeks of labour in exchange for hunting your land would be to offer minimum 425 acres for exclusive rights to the land for 1-2 weeks.

There’s so much crown land in that area that you’re not going to have people begging to hunt your land. Especially when you’re expecting 2 weeks worth of labor when they can go “next door” and hunt for free.


Keep us updated on how this pans out. You might not like some of the replies, but constructive criticism is always a help.
 
Build a larger camp/building that can hold 8-12 hunters. It doesn't have to be fancy.

Then rent the entire place out to them by the week. One week for moose, and 2 weeks for deer. Or you can rent out two 1 week deer hunts.

If there are actually elk on the property, you could get another week there possibly.

No one is gonna work 2 weeks in exchange to hunt I don't think. Pay a logger to come in and log it and clean it up. It will be great for hunting as well.

However, there is a market for this as many hunters have lost their camps in that area, the last couple years.

You could charge $2000-5000/week for land and cabin depending on several factors. But most guys are gonna want half decent access as well as clear trails throughout the property.

Moose tags are hard to get for that area and elk tag near impossible.

How far south of Bancroft is it?? What road and how far off 62?

A couple more ideas...

There are turkeys in that area, and it there were enough, you could rent it for 2/3 night turkey hunts.

ATV riders or snowmobilers for a couple nights if there are decent trails in and around the area, which there are.

Ducks on the ponds?? Duckhunters for a couple nights?

Upland game hunters for a couple nights???

There will be trout in some of the small lakes...fishing and ice fishing rental..

There are tons of ideas, but you need a decent cabin and decent access.
 
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I'm gonna burst some bubbles here, first of all 850 acres might seem like a big tract of land to someone that lives on 8000 sq ft but in actuality it can be totally covered in a few hours & hunted out by a single hunter in a couple days and be a worthless expenditure for the next two weeks hunter until the game moves around again to re-populate the area.
 
I would be careful about trading a weeks "work" for hunting privileges, people have different definitions of work. Our hunt camp would sign a contract and a waiver to rent property for the 1 week. You also need to consider liabilities and make sure you have proper insurance.
 
fingers284 said:
I'm gonna burst some bubbles here, first of all 850 acres might seem like a big tract of land to someone that lives on 8000 sq ft but in actuality it can be totally covered in a few hours & hunted out by a single hunter in a couple days and be a worthless expenditure for the next two weeks hunter until the game moves around again to re-populate the area.
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Maybe in the wide Alberta open prairie, Ontario woods, don't think so.
 
fingers284 said:
I'm gonna burst some bubbles here, first of all 850 acres might seem like a big tract of land to someone that lives on 8000 sq ft but in actuality it can be totally covered in a few hours & hunted out by a single hunter in a couple days and be a worthless expenditure for the next two weeks hunter until the game moves around again to re-populate the area.
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Ontario is a totally different ball game than Alberta.
 
*50 acres is *50 acres no matter where it is. An inexperienced walk & stalk hunter could alert
every animal in that tract of his presents in 4 hrs.
True i am in Ab where large tracks of open land hunting is available and on such land 850 acres is a 10 minute glassing sometimes but i hunted mostly in the central parkland where 850 acre tracts of bush are very common so I do know what can happen in them....and hunting that sized tract of land with a snow machine will alert every animal of something notright within 15 minutes let alone hours for a walker.
 
Hello, saw your situation and grew interest. I was Domtar's forest tech and coordinator for many years, which involved their hunting camp leases. In fact my father was the president of that group when it was called Limerick Fish and Game Club. One thing I will tell you is to proceed with caution and talk to experienced people only. Bias information is cheap and costly. I'm guessing your property is in the Tudor/Cashel Twp, Millbridge area ?
 
fingers284 said:
*50 acres is *50 acres no matter where it is. An inexperienced walk & stalk hunter could alert
every animal in that tract of his presents in 4 hrs.
True i am in Ab where large tracks of open land hunting is available and on such land 850 acres is a 10 minute glassing sometimes but i hunted mostly in the central parkland where 850 acre tracts of bush are very common so I do know what can happen in them....and hunting that sized tract of land with a snow machine will alert every animal of something notright within 15 minutes let alone hours for a walker.
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You couldn’t be more wrong. It’s actually laughable that someone would even suggest such nonsense for the area the OP owns property. First off, there is zero possibility of booting around on a snowmobile or ATV to check those 850 acres. With the terrain and vegetation/trees it just won’t happen. Second, it would take a single person days upon days to cover those 850 acres on foot. I’m mainly into tracking or spot/stalk hunting and it would take me a week to thoroughly scout that much area in that area of Ontario.
 
How many access roads, much is swamp, how much is barren granite, steep elevations etc..

I hunted in the Mountain Grove area for years, about 1000 acres. A mountain, lots of swamp, dense bush , hay fields and pasture , a couple roads to come out to. Kept 8 of us busy trying to cover it in a week.
 
canadian hunter312 said:
You couldn’t be more wrong. It’s actually laughable that someone would even suggest such nonsense for the area the OP owns property. First off, there is zero possibility of booting around on a snowmobile or ATV to check those 850 acres. With the terrain and vegetation/trees it just won’t happen. Second, it would take a single person days upon days to cover those 850 acres on foot. I’m mainly into tracking or spot/stalk hunting and it would take me a week to thoroughly scout that much area in that area of Ontario.
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This is true, there are parts of the property I have not seen yet, this is rough terrain. I spent 2 years building access roads and still difficult to access.
 
tokguy said:
Well, yeah it is... them bucks got twice the number of points too.cou:
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This isn’t a silly “well mine is better than yours” type childish argument where people are exaggerating. If you actually believe what fingers said to be true, you’d be in for a rude wake up call trying to accomplish such feat in the OP’s area.

It’s not like anyone is trying to make one place sound better/worse or whatever. We’re simply trying to get fingers to understand he has zero idea what the area is actually like. And it is most definitely not like his area if he is suggesting 850 acres in the OPs area could be hunted so quickly. There is no glassing or booting around on machines and in many areas a long shot is still within archery ranges. Buddies and family often hunt in areas where you literally can’t see a bear or deer standing 10 yards away and using bait to get the animal to step into specific shooting lanes is the only practical method of getting a shot off.
 
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