gunsaholic
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I think you are talking the model 600? I have 3 variants of them. You are correct in that they work well with flatter nose pellets. They are a blast to shoot.
To buy air pistols or not to buy hmmm
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I think you are talking the model 600? I have 3 variants of them. You are correct in that they work well with flatter nose pellets. They are a blast to shoot.
I've found that the young boys in the extended family like shooting them so now I own two. A pretty good introduction to handguns, especially for kids that got to own very few toy guns growing up, never mind real ones. I finding the Crosman six shooter I bought, a reproduction of a .357 that comes with loadable rounds for BBs or lead pellets, was a particularly good investment, very easy on the CO2 cylinders and all.
The umarex Webley revolvers are real fun to shootView attachment 725361
If your pistol uses CO2 canisters, the best thing you can do is to buy them in large boxes at Canadian Tire or Princess Auto. You usually save a lot per canister if you buy a large box.
Air pistols are great. The better quality ones are extremely accurate. I know getting one that looks like a powder burner is cool. But the ones that are dedicated target pistols are just awsome. Note that CO2 looses power in the cold, so if you intented to shoot outside in the winter you might want to go with a springer or an air powered pistol (either pump or preasured air). Go out and have fun.
Denis
Air pistols are great. The better quality ones are extremely accurate. I know getting one that looks like a powder burner is cool. But the ones that are dedicated target pistols are just awsome. Note that CO2 looses power in the cold, so if you intented to shoot outside in the winter you might want to go with a springer or an air powered pistol (either pump or preasured air). Go out and have fun.
Denis
gunsaholic
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Because many think they are fun to shoot and no pumping or cocking!! Besides, there are seals of some type to wear out on any air gun.
The 'replica' pistols may become 'banned' someday, with their use in crimes. And there are 'non-replica' pistols that are quite accurate at moderate distance. Lots of tests on YT, to let someone else 'try b4 You buy'. As for CO2, Princess sells the 'large box' of 40 for ca $35, not quite $1 each.
And like 45cat says, pumpers are good too - see Crosman 1322, only ca $100 and can be 'Upgraded' for ++$$ .
And like 45cat says, pumpers are good too - see Crosman 1322, only ca $100 and can be 'Upgraded' for ++$$ .
As this is my first foray into a decent CO2 air gun, I thought I'd do a bit of a review. The OP might find this useful!
I recently bought a Umarex Gloc 17 Gen 4, and just finished shooting it for the first time. I have to say I'm pretty impressed, both with the gun, and with it's realism and accuracy.
I had a real Glock (model 22 Gen 4, although functionally identical to the 17 except for caliber - I also carried a Glock 22 Gen 4 at work daily, for many years, so it's as natural to my hand as can be), and this Umarex is an incredibly accurate copy. It is a blowback (although with reduced recoil, of course) which enhances the shooting experience. I moved to Mexico in October, so couldn't bring a single one of my real firearms with me. As a gringo, legally obtaining a pistol here is extremely difficult (and maybe impossible). I've been itching to shoot again, and I loved my Glock, so this seemed a pretty good compromise.
It's an official Glock-licensed copy, with a steel slide and polymer frame, like the original. The engraved markings are genuine Glock throughout, and the Glock safety trigger functions exactly as the original. The mag even has the markings for the number of rounds, and the slide locks open after the last shot. If I put a real Glock 17 Gen 4 in one of your hands, and the Umarex in the other, you could NOT tell the difference. The ONLY clue that its not real is the smaller-diameter, recessed functional barrel, hidden somewhat inside the muzzle of the actual-sized (but non-functional) 9mm barrel. Of course, it fits all real Glock holsters, and the mag(s) fit real mag holders. Extra mags are VERY expensive here, though.
I'm getting about 54 full-power shots per CO2 cylinder, and then the CO2 dies off quickly. The mag contains the CO2 cylinder, and holds up to 18 steel BBs. Three full mags pretty much uses up a CO2 cylinder.
CO2 cylinders and BBs are cheap & readily available here, so I can shoot as much as I like in my garage, which is about 50' across although I've been shooting much closer so far, until I get used to the gun. I want to keep the BBs in my homemade trap (a Tupperware tub, with a hanging towel inside which catches and drops the BBs inside the tub), and as I gain confidence in my ability to do that I'll keep moving back.
I'm getting used to the sights, which are different from those on my real Glock 22 (it had the Trijicon night sights installed at the factory), so my first shots were a bit low, but the grouping was surprisingly good, just a bit low (my first couple of shots were mag dumps, of course!), but once I concentrated on getting a real sight picture the groups were right on the money. Considering this is a blowback CO2 gun, I'm pleasantly surprised at its capabilities.
If I had known how good this copy was, I'd have bought one when I owned my real Glock. It would have been great to blaze away at home, for cheap, fun practice.
Here's a link: https://www.replicaairguns.ca/glock-17-4th-gen-177-cal-bb-pistol
I recently bought a Umarex Gloc 17 Gen 4, and just finished shooting it for the first time. I have to say I'm pretty impressed, both with the gun, and with it's realism and accuracy.
I had a real Glock (model 22 Gen 4, although functionally identical to the 17 except for caliber - I also carried a Glock 22 Gen 4 at work daily, for many years, so it's as natural to my hand as can be), and this Umarex is an incredibly accurate copy. It is a blowback (although with reduced recoil, of course) which enhances the shooting experience. I moved to Mexico in October, so couldn't bring a single one of my real firearms with me. As a gringo, legally obtaining a pistol here is extremely difficult (and maybe impossible). I've been itching to shoot again, and I loved my Glock, so this seemed a pretty good compromise.
It's an official Glock-licensed copy, with a steel slide and polymer frame, like the original. The engraved markings are genuine Glock throughout, and the Glock safety trigger functions exactly as the original. The mag even has the markings for the number of rounds, and the slide locks open after the last shot. If I put a real Glock 17 Gen 4 in one of your hands, and the Umarex in the other, you could NOT tell the difference. The ONLY clue that its not real is the smaller-diameter, recessed functional barrel, hidden somewhat inside the muzzle of the actual-sized (but non-functional) 9mm barrel. Of course, it fits all real Glock holsters, and the mag(s) fit real mag holders. Extra mags are VERY expensive here, though.
I'm getting about 54 full-power shots per CO2 cylinder, and then the CO2 dies off quickly. The mag contains the CO2 cylinder, and holds up to 18 steel BBs. Three full mags pretty much uses up a CO2 cylinder.
CO2 cylinders and BBs are cheap & readily available here, so I can shoot as much as I like in my garage, which is about 50' across although I've been shooting much closer so far, until I get used to the gun. I want to keep the BBs in my homemade trap (a Tupperware tub, with a hanging towel inside which catches and drops the BBs inside the tub), and as I gain confidence in my ability to do that I'll keep moving back.
I'm getting used to the sights, which are different from those on my real Glock 22 (it had the Trijicon night sights installed at the factory), so my first shots were a bit low, but the grouping was surprisingly good, just a bit low (my first couple of shots were mag dumps, of course!), but once I concentrated on getting a real sight picture the groups were right on the money. Considering this is a blowback CO2 gun, I'm pleasantly surprised at its capabilities.
If I had known how good this copy was, I'd have bought one when I owned my real Glock. It would have been great to blaze away at home, for cheap, fun practice.
Here's a link: https://www.replicaairguns.ca/glock-17-4th-gen-177-cal-bb-pistol
Westcoastbro
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Whats the laws around replica firearms and replica bb/pellet hand guns?
anything I should know
Edit: So after reviewing the RCMP website it showss these are prohibited devices. So how is it they are being bought and sold and used in Canada?
anything I should know
Edit: So after reviewing the RCMP website it showss these are prohibited devices. So how is it they are being bought and sold and used in Canada?
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I have asked that same question numerous times and have never got an answer that explains it. I assume I must be reading something wrong.
Westcoastbro
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It seems pretty cut and dry. If it looks pretty well identical and hard to tell the difference its prohibited. They mention that having see through plastic is more obviously toy looking therefore it is legal.
Yes I get that but why can anybody still buy them in a store? The prohibited rule has been on the books for a while but I have bought several bb gun pistols that look exactly like the real handguns i own without an issue.
Westcoastbro
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No one is begging for anything. I was going to buy some but decided to read the law on it. Its already in place… hard to “beg” for prohibition when its in place…. Just trying to clarify.
Maybe the law has changed, but the old description of a replica exempted pellet and bb guns through a description of the power delivered by the projectile. The wording doesn't make it obvious.
Westcoastbro
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"Air guns that are replica firearms
These are air guns not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision. Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices.
In particular, some air guns commonly known as air soft guns may fall into this category. These are devices that have a low muzzle velocity and muzzle energy, and that usually discharge projectiles made out of a substance such as plastic or wax rather than metal.
An airsoft gun, firing a .20g 6mm plastic pellet with a muzzle velocity below 111.6 m/s (366 fps), and resembling with near precision an existing make and model of a firearm, other than an antique firearm, is a replica firearm and therefore a prohibited device.
Although replica firearms are prohibited, individuals may keep those they owned on December 1, 1998. You don't need a licence to possess them, and they do not need to be registered. However, you cannot import or acquire a replica firearm. If you take a replica firearm out of Canada, it will not be allowed back in.
The Criminal Code sets out penalties for using a replica firearm or any other imitation firearm to commit a crime.
The CFP receives many enquiries from people wondering whether a low-powered air gun would be considered a replica if it resembles a real firearm in terms of its shape, but it is made of clear or brightly coloured plastic, or has significant dimensional differences. Many of these devices need to be assessed on a case-by case basis. As a general rule, however, devices significantly smaller or larger than the real version are not classified as replica firearms."
source: https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/specific-types-firearms
