Poll : Calibers and Lengths for Drop-On Bren 2 Barrels ?
- Thread starter Dlask Arms
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Just hold tight until we have these for sale as a complete package. There will be enough trunnions and gas blocks for everyone. The barrels are a couple months away (for the 300AAC, 7.62x39) and the gas regulator, piston head and piston itself are also a couple months off. We are doing our best to try and get it all in at *roughly the same time and once it is all here we will assemble ad sell drop on barrels in 300AAC as well as complete CONVERSION KITS for the 7.62x39 caliber. Since 95% of all Bren 2's in Canada are .223/5.56 this makes the most sense we think. (The 300AAC barrels will be a kit of sorts but will not include a new bolt.)
- Location
- Newfoundland
Personally I’d want a nr 556 and be able to convert it to restricted 7.62x39, I can’t hunt with 7.62 here so the idea is to restrict it in the off season and convert it for coyotes
Once these 18.6” 7.62x39 barrel kits come from Dlask, you may see a few Bren 2 owners willing to part with their 5.56 NR barrels ; )
Precisely what we had in mind for the 7.62 kits. Something to change into at the range, shoot some cheap commie ammo the convert back to N/R for the ride home...you know, if that was legal and all.
Why ? Just keep it and have a true multi-cal rifle that doesn't weigh 86 pounds like the once vaunted ACR.
100% agree with you, it’s interesting what people buy and sell. I speak from experience, I’ve sold and purchased my original 11” barrel…but somehow I sold high and bought it back low lol.
Personally, I would like to see a 18.5" 5.56 barrel that has a slightly bulbous flash hider machined into it:
Every Canada legal barrel tends to grow to about 20" after the addition of a brake/flash hider anyways, so it would be a nice change to to have a complete article that more closely resembls the finished 16" barrels south of us.
Every Canada legal barrel tends to grow to about 20" after the addition of a brake/flash hider anyways, so it would be a nice change to to have a complete article that more closely resembls the finished 16" barrels south of us.
Sorry, you are unclear on how we measure barrels in our country. Per the firearms act it is the CONTINUOUS length of rifling, not overall barrel length like the U.S. Therefore it makes zero difference if the brake screws on or we machine it into the barrel. Wherever the threads end is how it's measured so it boils down to 6 of 1, half dozen of the other.
Measured from start of rifling at the front of the chamber, not to the bolt face?
Also wondering if cutting side ports into the muzzle of a barrel that's still rifled through that right out to the front would work.
apexanimal
CGN Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island
Barrel length
(2) For the purposes of this Part, the length of a barrel of a firearm is
(a) in the case of a revolver, the distance from the muzzle of the barrel to the breach end immediately in front of the cylinder, and
(b) in any other case, the distance from the muzzle of the barrel to and including the chamber,
but does not include the length of any component, part or accessory including any component, part or accessory designed or intended to suppress the muzzle flash or reduce recoil.
^from the criminal code "definitions" section pertaining to the firearms act. I've heard that rifling statement often but never found it written anywhere (open to seeing it). Either way im not saying make the barrels with integrated brakes, just wanted to clarify the actual barrel length regulations. Another Canadian manufacturer has made a barrel with an integrated brake that was included as barrel length as it was not a component part or accessory.
Correct. And also correct on not seeing stripped receivers anytime soon since most of what CZ makes now ends up on the zero line in Ukraine. Word on the street in the United States even is that these are becoming hens teeth for their market.
All licensed Verifier's in Canada know how to do this and what the RCMP expectation is. For barrel length of rifles it is from the bolt face to the barrel crown, NOT the muzzle, If an integral brake is cut into the end of the barrel material with a set back for the crown or not it is the continuous length of rifling, period.
I've been doing this technical work with the RCMP for 12 years as a Verifier and licensed manufacturer, I know full well what I'm talking about.
Blastattack
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Winnipeg MB
NR 5.56, "Rifle" gas length, Medium/Heavy profile for me.
So, funny you mention that. We are having the long gas system pistons made right now and will be using them on the 18mm gas blocks to make just such an animal. ( :
(The largest diameter barrel you can make for these is .700" diameter since 18mm (.708") is the journal diameter for the gas block.)
apexanimal
CGN Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island
I'm not interested in starting an argument but can you explain how the armalite 180b is NR then? The company even lists the barrel length as 18.25" (rifling) but 19.8" including the integral brake. The FRT lists the barrel length as 490mm or 19.3 inches, so obviously there was no interest in total uninterrupted rifling length there as they took the bulk of the integrated brake as barrel length. The rcmp makes up a lot of "rules" as they go, some of which are in fact illegal (atrs frt reversal). I don't ever take their requirements de jour as substitute for fact based evidence (such as whats written in the CC, or a currently NR rifle not adhering to some unfounded barrel length theory of theirs).
Any way again im not the one who asked you to make these barrels, simply wanted to point out theyve been made already and hasnt been an issue, all the best, cheers.
What you are 'not arguing' is the EXCEPTION, not the rule. I will add that there are also KelTec shotguns and mares leg rifles under 26 inches long that are N/R. Those guns break the WRITTEN rules (not just RCMP BS for their 'interpretations' of the 'spirit of the law' crap) for what is N/R and what is R to anyone intimately familiar with the Criminal Code and the FA. Does that make sense to you and I, the peasants ? Nope. And to our 'Betters' it doesn't have to. Just remember : do as they say, not as they do and all will be well. But, as I said, these are anomalies and are NOT what the RCMP will let go as N/R if we submit them today.
Brother, I've been dealing with both The Lab and CAQA for well over 12 years now on an almost daily basis so just accept what I'm telling you. We WILL NOT be making anything that is not by the book per the current regs and 'interpretation of the rules' by the RCMP.
They says it's the continuous length of rifling from the bolt face to the crown and that is what we will make.
