Food Supply for Hunting in remote areas accessible by Bushplane only.

MiG25 said:
Peak Pork and Rice has 4.4 calories/gram, this is less than Nissan Beef Noodles or the PC Mac and Cheese I have in my pantry. PC Mac and Cheese is about the same as Peak Alfredo at a fraction of the cost.

The guys that say Mr Noodles aren't wrong.

Freeze dried stuff has very little to recommend it over many items on the shelf in the grocert store.

Read labels, buy what you want to eat. Heck a 50 cent chocolate bar from the Dollar Store is more calorie dense than the stuff being passed off as ultralight backpacking food.
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Eat More, a good chew with peanuts too.
 
Halva, the Roman’s used it and it’s still a good option.
Dry fruit
Dry meat

“Freeze dried” prepackaged meals are fast and easy but you’re paying a lot for mostly beans, rice, pasta
 
This may not apply to the OP's situation but it's a different story if you're out on a trail or camped close to a water source.

What the ultralight crowd seem to miss is that for each freeze dried meal water is needed.

If you're on a trail that hasn't many water sources or water sources are far apart you will have to carry extra water for your meal.

That brings the pack weight required for a Peak Refuel thingy at @ 150 gram plus water (3/4 cup) to roughly 325 grams for 800 calories.

E.g. 100 gram of beef jerky boasts about 400 calories and 75 gram of peanuts will add another 450 calories. This at almost half the weight and 1/4 of the cost for the "ultralight" meal.
 
riversrest said:
This may not apply to the OP's situation but it's a different story if you're out on a trail or camped close to a water source.

What the ultralight crowd seem to miss is that for each freeze dried meal water is needed.

If you're on a trail that hasn't many water sources or water sources are far apart you will have to carry extra water for your meal.

That brings the pack weight required for a Peak Refuel thingy at @ 150 gram plus water (3/4 cup) to roughly 325 grams for 800 calories.

E.g. 100 gram of beef jerky boasts about 400 calories and 75 gram of peanuts will add another 450 calories. This at almost half the weight and 1/4 of the cost for the "ultralight" meal.
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Try eating 100 grams of beef jerky, 75 grams of peanuts, and not drinking water while hoofing it hunting then get back to us.

The water is a requirement, it‘s just which way you consume it.
 
^ Done it often on the go. Tell me you don't have a drink after your ultralight meal.

Is that what you want to convey ?
 
conor_90 said:
Where are you guys hunting with no water? I hear animals like that stuff
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There is places in the mountains where water is scarce at certain times of the year.

You may have to cross that dry patch on foot in order to get onto the game if you're hunting. If your just out for a mountain hike you may go to places where there's no animals.
 
After a day of hiking in the mountains, I like freeze dried meals for a main at dinner time. Breakfast is oatmeal or some sort of granola bar/dried fruit. Snacks include nuts and chocolate. For lunch I will pack heavy items the first day or two and then resort to granola bars/trail mix for the remaining days. It works for me. This season I will add either bacon or salami to the snack list.

<60lbs pack including 3l of water is my goal. Usually a week long hunt. Losing a bit of weight in the hills is fine by me.
 
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riversrest said:
^ Done it often on the go. Tell me you don't have a drink after your ultralight meal.

Is that what you want to convey ?
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Not nearly as much as if I just ate 175grams of completely dry, salted ####. You’re going to consume identical amounts of water with either, you’re just going to drink more of it cold after eating dry peanuts and jerky. Maybe that’s what the tang and alcohol is for, post peanuts and jerky. And it’s a rare place in BC indeed that doesn’t have water.
 
Ardent said:
Not nearly as much as if I just ate 175grams of completely dry, salted ####. You’re going to consume identical amounts of water with either, you’re just going to drink more of it cold after eating dry peanuts and jerky.
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As the expert you claim to be, you didn't hear about unsalted peanuts and natural beef/salmon jerky ?

Btw. did you know that the jerky contains more moisture than your freeze dried super saver meals ? What's your "outfit" called again ?

Are you guys shoveling the freeze dried goodies out of the bag while on the go ?
 
I have never hunted in the mountains or through hiked before, it's good to know there are huge desertified portions of the alpine that I will need to trek through if I ever make it to BC or Alberta. I wonder if I could rig up a piss pump pack so I could strap Bacon and a bottle of everclear to it so I have enough water

I think if I ever make it out there I will just carry a wheel of gruyere and a big hunk of air dried cow to honor my alpine ancestors. Should cost less than mountain house tbh


Maybe the solution to high costs and low cals of dehydrated meals is to supplement them with other stuff. Middle of the road approaches are for communists though. I'm going full 1930's Rocky mountain trench prospector and carrying a metal bucket and bag of oats on a board frame from here on in. Would anyone like to trade a 5lb canvas jacket for an Alpha SV and a sporter Enfield for a kipplauf?
 
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after reading this thread I went to my dehydrated stuff stash and put together a meal consisting of peas, broccoli and chicken breast.
after 30 mins of slow simmer, the peas were ok, the broccoli slightly chewy but the chicken could have used some more simmering.
to make it all palatable I had to use 3/4 of a teaspoon of very strong indian masala.
perhaps all is not lost...
 
A guy is probably never more than a mile or 2 from water but there can be a lot of elevation in between. Snow and seeps are another possible source if you know where they are, some may be skittish about catching drips of water from a fungus/tufa stalactite.

Cheese, jerky, raisins is good eats. Blue Menu Granola and Jello to make "Tea". Smoked herring in oil goes great with rye crackers. Pack a few chocolate bars too. Bacon and rice if it suits you and instant mashed potatoes fortified with ghee and powdered cheese. Don't forget the 151 Tang Sunset for the end of the day.

Guess guys have never heard of homemade jerky and unsalted peanuts.
 
Are you a real mountain man if you've never had to kill a marmot and suck the moisture from its eyeballs to quench your thirst after eating 3 lbs of bacon?
 
400 - 1200 cals per 100 gram depending on cut.

Low salt content, aged over the years, lasts in the mountains... 30 % cost of freeze dried, wholesale outfitter pouch.

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riversrest said:
400 - 1200 cals per 100 gram depending on cut.

Low salt content, aged over the years, lasts in the mountains... 30 % cost of freeze dried, wholesale outfitter pouch.

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Did you make that? I've seen Jamon hanging in the rafters in Spain but never in this Country (for our own good we're told)
 
Non ironically, I've made bunserfleisch from elk meat and brought it into the mountains before. Better than mountain house for sure
 
MiG25 said:
Did you make that? I've seen Jamon hanging in the rafters in Spain but never in this Country (for our own good we're told)
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No, not this one but similar. Yes, we used to hang the hams in the rafters back home when I was a kid. For 6 month at minimum.

I still do cured meats from game, pork, beef and fish every year.
 
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