What's with the Current Trend of Large-Capacity Magazines in Hunting Rifles

Grain said:
Perhaps I'm not completely understanding your question, but where I like to use 10 round mags is when calling coyotes. Not unusual to have 5 or 6 show up, and if you have a 3 round mag you feel very unprepared.
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Question: Will the 10 round or more magazine and the rounds on the rifle and the extra magazines make the hunter a better Marksman ? I am talking about first round hits with big game rifles, at unknown ranges, from improvised shooting positions, against the clock. Obviously, no shooting from a bench. Calling coyotes presumably means that you can figure out pretty well in advance the distances all around your calling place. Yes, I know about range finders and I like very much to guess distances - as if I had no range finder.

No matter how many rounds you have in your rifle and in your spare magazines, you still have to hit your target with each and every bullet - separately. If you have 50 rounds in all, will you hit your target better with your first 5 rounds than if you have only 5 rounds in your rifle to begin with ? Coyote hunting, you say ? Do you hit your moving targets with each and every one of your first 5 rounds ? Are you a better marksman with more rounds within your reach ?

I can tell you that I am not a better Marksman with more rounds within my reach. That I know for sure ! I can shoot more and more rapidly with more rounds close by but I am not a better Marksman - because I miss ! If I were a better Marksman, I would hit with each and every one of my bullets - and I would shoot less.

The purpose of shooting is hitting. With each and every one of my rounds - in my case.
 
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Snowy Owl said:
Take 2.

Question: Will the 10 round or more magazine and the rounds on the rifle and the extra magazines make the hunter a better Marksman ? ...
Coyote hunting, you say ? Do you hit your moving targets with each and every one of your first 5 rounds ? Are you a better marksman with more rounds within your reach ?
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Perhaps still not answering, but I think I'm following you.
I would love to say I never miss, but that would not be the truth, far from it. Do I miss more because I have more bullets? I don't believe so, as I'm being mindful that another coyote could pop over the hill and if I've nothing left, again poor ammo management. Do others take more shots with less surety because they have 10 rounds instead of 5? Perhaps, but I won't speak for them.
Another example is gopher hunting. In my part of the world we do so because we are saving crops, not just because it's enjoyable; but don't get me wrong, it is the best day at work ever. My father takes great pride in going out and getting 96 with 97 rounds etc. Myself, I have way less enthusiasm for ammo conservation in that situation. If I shoot half a brick in a morning with only 100 gophers to show for it, my grin is just as big as his. Is one way wrong and the other right? Nope.
 
Does anyone get offended by some lever action 30-30 rifles that will hold 8 rounds of ammunition? Or does the magazine have to hit the magical 10 capacity to get upset about it?
 
"Who needs 10?"

*Angry and Blooded Bear has entered the chat*

If I'm going to be out in the woods with Mr. Grizzly and no bear-stopping Hard Cover I want ALL the help I can get. Lots of ammo and lots of friends with lots of ammo so that if Big Griz decides he wants to attack us we can make sure he's put DOWN before anyone gets mauled.
 
Gatehouse said:
Does anyone get offended by some lever action 30-30 rifles that will hold 8 rounds of ammunition? Or does the magazine have to hit the magical 10 capacity to get upset about it?
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Probably not, but if someone was walking around with a lever action gun with some big ass magazine extension like you see on some 3-gun shotguns then yes, I think some would be just as irked by that as they are a big detachable mag in a bolt gun.
 
Lol, some hilarious responses. A quick study of the 2nd amendment says it all. Those rights weren't given because the deer were coming. They were there to ensure government could be removed when it no longer served the people and they didn't want to comply and was serving itself at the expense of the people. Does that ring a bell to where we might be at currently?

Why hunt with dogs. Fly fisherman looking down on bait fisherman. Traditional archers looking down on bowhunters with their training wheels. I only need one shot a year to fill my freezer so you should too. Competitive shooting sports? PRS is a big reason to answer the OP's as they shoot 200 rounds a match and not only high capacity but also standard mags to cross to various rifles.

I always wanted more just for coyote hunting. Not hard to burn up the usual 3-5 when 3-5 coyotes come at you from across the valley. Also some just might want their hunting and spare ammo in the pack consolidated into one spot right where it should be. Nothing wrong with that logic at all.

But people should understand the number 1 reason the govt. keeps trying to erode your gun rights. It's basically them saying we need to get these guns away from you so you can't do much to us for the other things we have planned for you...which obviously you will use your gun if you still have it, they are not very nice plans. ;) A proper government that serves its people as intended would encourage maximum firearms ownership. It also makes your nation far less inviting to invade. It strengthens your nation and people in every way.

So don't get lost in the weeds folks, they p1ss on your backs with every wave of banning etc. with some lame 'you don't need that for hunting' and you better believe the 'mass shootings' (research false flag events) are part of their agenda to create those waves of bannings. They have an end goal...see U.K. and Australia for examples further along than Canada but that is their end goal...no guns. No way to stand against them as they serve themselves off our backs and or try to reset us...again.

We're way past that...keep on fighting folks...more importantly...make sure you get educated on the subject and just spread that as much as you can.

Lets not get caught in that trap where we fight each other based off the govt. p1ss on our backs while they keep telling us it's raining.

Oh and I'm down with the bear defence thing also but we should also all be allowed to freely carry a 9mm everywhere, plain sight or not. Bearspray doesn't work all the time, neither do rifles that are cumbersome to ready and be precise with for the one or two you may get. Maximize your ability to react and protect and that's where the semi auto pistol at the ready comes in.
 
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blakeyboy said:
Lol, some hilarious responses. A quick study of the 2nd amendment says it all. Those rights weren't given because the deer were coming. They were there to ensure government could be removed when it no longer served the people and they didn't want to comply and was serving itself at the expense of the people. Does that ring a bell to where we might be at currently?

Why hunt with dogs. Fly fisherman looking down on bait fisherman. Traditional archers looking down on bowhunters with their training wheels. I only need one shot a year to fill my freezer so you should too. Competitive shooting sports? PRS is a big reason to answer the OP's as they shoot 200 rounds a match and not only high capacity but also standard mags to cross to various rifles.

I always wanted more just for coyote hunting. Not hard to burn up the usual 3-5 when 3-5 coyotes come at you from across the valley. Also some just might want their hunting and spare ammo in the pack consolidated into one spot right where it should be. Nothing wrong with that logic at all.

But people should understand the number 1 reason the govt. keeps trying to erode your gun rights. It's basically them saying we need to get these guns away from you so you can't do much to us for the other things we have planned for you...which obviously you will use your gun if you still have it, they are not very nice plans. ;) A proper government that serves its people as intended would encourage maximum firearms ownership. It also makes your nation far less inviting to invade. It strengthens your nation and people in every way.

So don't get lost in the weeds folks, they p1ss on your backs with every wave of banning etc. with some lame 'you don't need that for hunting' and you better believe the 'mass shootings' (research false flag events) are part of their agenda to create those waves of bannings. They have an end goal...see U.K. and Australia for examples further along than Canada but that is their end goal...no guns. No way to stand against them as they serve themselves off our backs and or try to reset us...again.

We're way past that...keep on fighting folks...more importantly...make sure you get educated on the subject and just spread that as much as you can.

Lets not get caught in that trap where we fight each other based off the govt. p1ss on our backs while they keep telling us it's raining.

Oh and I'm down with the bear defence thing also but we should also all be allowed to freely carry a 9mm everywhere, plain sight or not. Bearspray doesn't work all the time, neither do rifles that are cumbersome to ready and be precise with for the one or two you may get. Maximize your ability to react and protect and that's where the semi auto pistol at the ready comes in.
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I agree for the most part, though my pistol choice would be me S&W Model 57 revolver in .41 magnum that I used for IPSC shoots years back.
Would've done most all of my hunting & woods travel with a handgun over the years if allowed. For an auto in bigass, ornery bear areas, I'd be happy with a Coonan .357 mag.
;)

Sure wish we could have the freedom to own and play with full-auto stuff as well like the US & Swiss folks but I reckon that ain't happening in our lifetimes.
We be rapidly heading into mass, global die-off thanks to the corporate global controllers. Sick fookin' times.
:(
 
Eagleye said:
I couldn't care less about what a fellow shooter/hunter wants as to magazine capacity. If 10 round mags are your choice,
who am I to argue that you do not need these.

But for myself, I cannot see a need for a big magazine, so prefer floorplated hunting rifles over any others. I cannot recall
the last time I shot more than 3 shots at any game animal, so the need is just not there for me. EE.
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Most of my shooting is at paper, it's not running away, so I can reload a smaller magazine. Because I shoot at paper, typically I shoot once at a game animal, maybe a finishing shot. One can't lose a floorplate 1000km from home.

Seems people aren't getting the op's thread. Having dealt with him, he runs to fine hunting rifles. His choice, others choices are different. There are limited choices in fine hunting rifles, it's all chassis and big magazines. Op asked why. That's it. Choices and lack of his choice.

Yet somehow because the op likes fine classical rifles, he's the problem. It's his attitude that brings us lieberal gun control. It isn't anyone's fault but the lieberals and their voters. People blaming "fudds" are nothing more than the mirror image of "fudd". Why do the lieberals need to bother dividing and conquering gunnies, we do it to ourselves. OP asked a pretty simple question ffs.
 
nowarningshot said:
Most of my shooting is at paper, it's not running away, so I can reload a smaller magazine. Because I shoot at paper, typically I shoot once at a game animal, maybe a finishing shot. One can't lose a floorplate 1000km from home.

Seems people aren't getting the op's thread. Having dealt with him, he runs to fine hunting rifles. His choice, others choices are different. There are limited choices in fine hunting rifles, it's all chassis and big magazines. Op asked why. That's it. Choices and lack of his choice.

Yet somehow because the op likes fine classical rifles, he's the problem. It's his attitude that brings us lieberal gun control. It isn't anyone's fault but the lieberals and their voters. People blaming "fudds" are nothing more than the mirror image of "fudd". Why do the lieberals need to bother dividing and conquering gunnies, we do it to ourselves. OP asked a pretty simple question ffs.
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I think the mirror image is labelled 'Operators'
Acknowledging that my Avatar could be labeled 'Fuddish' but that is Great Grampa Robert... out of Box Springs Texas, he rocked pistols. So I ain't a Fudd... I don't think.
Shot my son's Black Rifle, really enjoyed it...nifty units to be sure. Because it ain't my Genre don't mean 'Sh*t'...still cool.
Just not something I have to have...can't anymore anyhow, sadly.
Still cool.
 
nowarningshot said:
Most of my shooting is at paper, it's not running away, so I can reload a smaller magazine. Because I shoot at paper, typically I shoot once at a game animal, maybe a finishing shot. One can't lose a floorplate 1000km from home.

Seems people aren't getting the op's thread. Having dealt with him, he runs to fine hunting rifles. His choice, others choices are different. There are limited choices in fine hunting rifles, it's all chassis and big magazines. Op asked why. That's it. Choices and lack of his choice.

Yet somehow because the op likes fine classical rifles, he's the problem. It's his attitude that brings us lieberal gun control. It isn't anyone's fault but the lieberals and their voters. People blaming "fudds" are nothing more than the mirror image of "fudd". Why do the lieberals need to bother dividing and conquering gunnies, we do it to ourselves. OP asked a pretty simple question ffs.
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While I agree with you that this thread seems to have missed the point, The OP did choose his wording poorly.

Who needs 10 rounds in the magazine when hunting? I can't think of a single time when I've been hunting over the past 50+ years...
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The entire rest of his post might as well not exist to some, questions about guns that start with "who needs..." don't go over well with some, nor does "I've been hunting for 50 years..."...
 
The SA-22 stores the bullits in the butt stock. 10 of em, kinda concealed you know. Where TF did the floor plate, mag, go ?

It's take down as well (IMO, more deadly) and combined with speed loading tubes it's getting pretty close to WMDs.
 
nowarningshot said:
Most of my shooting is at paper, it's not running away, so I can reload a smaller magazine. Because I shoot at paper, typically I shoot once at a game animal, maybe a finishing shot. One can't lose a floorplate 1000km from home.

Seems people aren't getting the op's thread. Having dealt with him, he runs to fine hunting rifles. His choice, others choices are different. There are limited choices in fine hunting rifles, it's all chassis and big magazines. Op asked why. That's it. Choices and lack of his choice.

Yet somehow because the op likes fine classical rifles, he's the problem. It's his attitude that brings us lieberal gun control. It isn't anyone's fault but the lieberals and their voters. People blaming "fudds" are nothing more than the mirror image of "fudd". Why do the lieberals need to bother dividing and conquering gunnies, we do it to ourselves. OP asked a pretty simple question ffs.
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That was my thinking too, the op ain’t the problem imo!
I agree 100% with you
 
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