All-New: Type 81M

Uhhh. Wut...lol you are aware the SR has a different reciever, different upper and lower handguards that are much longer, and a different gas system/length...right? Quite literally different than the 81M in every way lol.

Yes, they still took the same receivers. I think I made that clear. For the SR they just cut it in at 45 degree. Not hard.

I actually think the SR are great but don't fool yourself. You just paid TI $200 more for a Chinese worker to do that. A 5 minute job.

Despite my previous statement, I actually tend to the opinion that those ARE actually $800 rifles, sold to us at a 50 % premium. I most likely am in the top 1 % of the people who owned the most type 81.

I mean even the finish is a joke. How could you not say "let's take 5 minutes more of your time and make it look nice?" - out of a Chinese workers time who makes $10/day???
 
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Received my underfolder and fixed stock. Fixed stock from above looks like a banana. Butt is definitely on a weird angle throwing alignment off. Also, magazine rattles like crazy when inserted. Meh. Underfolder is really cool. I actually like the UF more than the fixed stock. Total underwhelming purchase to be honest.

X2 on majority of this report. The underfolder is the keeper right out the box. Really did not think the reports of the fixed LOP being too "short" would have been my biggest complaint. However with the fixed M I am just not digging it. Too use to AR Buffer / 1913 adapters on the previous SE models giving me a desired fit. Unfortunate that the previous adapters / aftermarket support apparently won't work with the new M models either. With sigmac* gone I do hope another 3rd party will pickup where he left.

My theory with the "bent" under folder stocks is that one side of that stock mechanism needs to "relief" the size difference between the two arms and the "U". Not sure if that makes sense it's just how it appears. I have seen the one in here that looked excessively pushed over, maybe that was an installation issue at the factory.

For $1300 this is as good as it gets for reliability and a x39 China banger.

Exactly 2 weeks from order to in hand. 4 days from shipping notification to in hand SK( over weekend ).

Thanks TI 👍
 
X2 on majority of this report. The underfolder is the keeper right out the box. Really did not think the reports of the fixed LOP being too "short" would have been my biggest complaint. However with the fixed M I am just not digging it. Too use to AR Buffer / 1913 adapters on the previous SE models giving me a desired fit. Unfortunate that the previous adapters / aftermarket support apparently won't work with the new M models either. With sigmac* gone I do hope another 3rd party will pickup where he left.

My theory with the "bent" under folder stocks is that one side of that stock mechanism needs to "relief" the size difference between the two arms and the "U". Not sure if that makes sense it's just how it appears. I have seen the one in here that looked excessively pushed over, maybe that was an installation issue at the factory.

For $1300 this is as good as it gets for reliability and a x39 China banger.

Exactly 2 weeks from order to in hand. 4 days from shipping notification to in hand SK( over weekend ).

Thanks TI ��

So previous ar, vz, 1913 and zukov stock adaptors don't work on the M models? Can anyone confirm this?
 
Yes, they still took the same receivers. I think I made that clear. For the SR they just cut it in at 45 degree. Not hard.

I actually think the SR are great but don't fool yourself. You just paid TI $200 more for a Chinese worker to do that. A 5 minute job.

Despite my previous statement, I actually tend to the opinion that those ARE actually $800 rifles, sold to us at a 50 % premium. I most likely am in the top 1 % of the people who owned the most type 81.

I mean even the finish is a joke. How could you not say "let's take 5 minutes more of your time and make it look nice?" - out of a Chinese workers time who makes $10/day???

Minimum Wage in China is roughly $5 per hour. So the said worker is making $50 a day not $10.
 
Found another banana on a type 81 Facebook page FB_IMG_1711450258384.jpg
 

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Looks mostly like the stock is just cast-off for a right handed shooter - which admittedly would be surprising for a rifle of this type. It does give a far better sight picture when the rifle is shouldered.

I have fairly expensive double guns that appear “bent” in the same way. The best way to observe this is to put the butt on the floor and look down from the muzzle end.
 
I mean even the finish is a joke. How could you not say "let's take 5 minutes more of your time and make it look nice?" - out of a Chinese workers time who makes $10/day???

Not that I’m an expert in manufacturing but I do a lot of high end finish hardwood etc, and in my experience anyways, if you leave an inexperienced worker with any amount of time you get the same result.

The only example I know of is the Remington/Marlin acquisition. Now I’ve read many different accounts of how it played out and there’s obviously a lot of different explanations, some others even parallel our situation here in terms of cutting corners for profits but one area sort of hits home. From what stories tell, Remington either didn’t want to pay the original Marlin workers and moved production to acquire cheaper/ consequently inexperienced labour or some other more complicated chain of events in that neck of the woods as these things tend to go. Anyways the point is speculate here is if you look at older JM stamped Marlin (mind you some late/newer was getting bad from aging equipment) the actual fit and finish of stocks and fore end stocks, even just the overall assembly and QC of rem rifle, tooling aside, was worse, and I really doubt they were working at Chinese production pace.

So I don’t know that spending more time or throwing more QC at a product like ours in mention really makes any difference. If you leave an inexperienced worker for 1 hour or 10 hours, he can only finish to the standard he knows how to finish to. That said I don’t know if I’d hold China high on a pedestal for having experienced firearms makers, at least not high end finishes, reliability however maybe, which is what we tend to see here from the Type 81.
 
Order mid 275XX

Purchased late March 12th
Order Processing March 18th
RCMP Notification March 21st
Shipping Notification @ 1am this morning having been shipped yesterday.

I ordered a sling and have two separate tracking numbers oddly, one appears to be moving much quicker than the other but I’m unable to tell which is which. Has anyone had any success that was in a similar situation? I’d imagine the sling will likely show up first.


There’s going to be a lot of people disappointed by Canada Post with the upcoming Easter weekend holiday.
 
Looks mostly like the stock is just cast-off for a right handed shooter - which admittedly would be surprising for a rifle of this type. It does give a far better sight picture when the rifle is shouldered.

I have fairly expensive double guns that appear “bent” in the same way. The best way to observe this is to put the butt on the floor and look down from the muzzle end.

After owning all t81's variant this seems to be the standard. The SE and SA beeing the worst and sr lmg being the nicest. The M is really not that bad, I have the same kind of banana bent on the fixed. Not really surprised at this point and kinda was expecting it. I don't really know what the fuss is all about, the factory been doing this #### since the beginning. You would think that they would care to investigate and resolve the problem but they didn't and won't in the future. He'll one guy even got his rifle shipped without a mag release meaning they most probably don't even test fire the rifles. But it's a cool looking chinesium product
 
This thread is hilarious. Y'all are buying mass produced rugged war rifles from China, not a $6000 swiss platform.
The t81 has always been rugged, imperfect, and a little ugly. But it goes bang every time and punches way above its weight for what it costs. IT'S A COMMIE BLASTER!!! Load it up and shoot the snot out of it instead of obsessing over 2mm deviation on a stamped receiver.
 
This thread is hilarious. Y'all are buying mass produced rugged war rifles from China, not a $6000 swiss platform.
The t81 has always been rugged, imperfect, and a little ugly. But it goes bang every time and punches way above its weight for what it costs. IT'S A COMMIE BLASTER!!! Load it up and shoot the snot out of it instead of obsessing over 2mm deviation on a stamped receiver.

Haha anything to avoid admitting they might be a terrible shot.
 
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