22 Long Cartridges
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slinkylegs
Regular
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- Hudson Bay, SK
Eagle Firearms in Tisdale, Sk has a number of boxes of CCI Longs. Not sure the cost to ship them though. Most shops would be able to order them in I'd think, but that might not help you if you need them soon (if they are available at this time)
Is it possible the problem lies in the ammo, not the gun ? Is the chamber building Carbon Ring or Lad jamming up in the Leade ? Do you clean for Carbon often, since the problem only surfaces after "about 50 shots" ? I'd think the Longs would be allowing more cra* to build up there.
I have a HS Supermatic as well, I don't think 22 longs are actually going to solve that problem. I would strip it down and clean it very well, then look to your mags. I use 22 LR in mine (unless I have the 22 short kit installed), and it is amazing how filthy it can get with some ammo. - dan
According to their manuals, High Standard pistols such as the Citation can use HV ammo. It's often recommended by long-time HS shooters to use standard velocity rounds because it reduces wear and the danger of cracking the frame. It's a question of potentially less stress from lower powered ammo vs potentially more stress from higher powered .22LR ammo.
These High Standard pistols do not have a feedramp (in the pistol), so the geometry of the magazine feedlips is critical, and - for proper function - a given magazine's feedlip geometry must be 'tuned' for a particular pistol. Brownells sells (new-manufacture, Texas-made) magazines, and in the bag they include a tutorial on how to 'tune' the magazine; the technique also should be fairly easy to find elsewhere (online).
And it is my understanding that, for a long service life, standard velocity is probably a better bet (than is high velocity).
And it is my understanding that, for a long service life, standard velocity is probably a better bet (than is high velocity).
I kinda doubt there IS a 'special tool'. More like instructions to tweak the feed lips in or out, depending on how the cartridge sits when loaded, and how well it reliably feeds, so my bets are that it requires a pair of pliers, and possibly a small bench vise to squeeze the lips inwards evenly, as required. I worked in a Military Small Arms shop for a while, and we had hardened steel billets that went inside each of the usual magazines (FN, Lee Enfield, Browning High Power, Stirling SMG) that we usually dealt with, so that we could whack bends and dents out, as well as reshape the feed lips, using a nylon hammer.
And yeah, same as the others, "Long" ammo is not gonna solve your issues. Those use essentially a bullet from a Short (lighter than Long Rifle bullet) on essentially the same case as a Long Rifle, usually loaded about at Short velocities, or only slightly more. Gonna be WAY lacking in snot to cycle the action...
There is a tool made for tuning the High Standard magazines. I've read about them but never seen or used one. I can't say whether they are indispensable or if a useful tool can be fashioned by a do-it-yourselfer. As I recall, the one shown below is or was available on ebay or something similar.
Donny Fenn1
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Does anyone this will work to mend Colt 22 ACE magazines? It should right?There is a tool made for tuning the High Standard magazines. I've read about them but never seen or used one. I can't say whether they are indispensable or if a useful tool can be fashioned by a do-it-yourselfer. As I recall, the one shown below is or was available on ebay or something similar.
It should, you're tweaking the lips regardless. - dan
