Type 81 in 7.62x54r?

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Hey Tactical Imports just wanted to ask if it'd ever be possible to get a type 81 in a larger caliber like 762x54r or 308. I'm assuming it would be considered a type 81 variant and not a dragonuv variant making it legal and would be a pretty popular choice for cheap ammo and great range and reliability. Would love to know if there's any actual plan to have such an item.
 
Hey Tactical Imports just wanted to ask if it'd ever be possible to get a type 81 in a larger caliber like 762x54r or 308. I'm assuming it would be considered a type 81 variant and not a dragonuv variant making it legal and would be a pretty popular choice for cheap ammo and great range and reliability. Would love to know if there's any actual plan to have such an item.
A lot of people cite the .308 T81 (NAR10 or CS/LR14) that did/does exist, but from what little I've heard of it, it's not very accurate and may as well have been a prototype. I'm not sure how many were made or if any were even exported, or if TI could even acquire them for sale. They had the T81 SR made special to order and it had to get it's own FRT since it's a different receiver from the standard Type 81, and I'm sure that was possibly difficult enough for them already.

I'd like to see a Type 81 in 5.56 (EM355) come to market but I'd assume a mix of C21 (despite existing prior for the American market, before Norinco was banned from the US) and other potential factors putting a damper on us getting any Type 81s outside of their native clambering. I just want an 81M without paying scalper prices man.
 
I wouldn't be hopeful. A switch to that would probably necessitate extensive redesign to the receiver. Enough so that the RCMP would probably consider it a new design.
While I don't want to agree I think you are right. They will deem it a new design and then they have to make specific mags. Probably easier to design a version in 5.56
 
While I don't want to agree I think you are right. They will deem it a new design and then they have to make specific mags. Probably easier to design a version in 5.56
Indeed. Also to make things a little trickier, designing a proprietary mag that feeds rimmed cartridges would likely be enough of a headache for Norinco/Polytech that it would be refused for a non-mil order.
 
A lot of people cite the .308 T81 (NAR10 or CS/LR14) that did/does exist, but from what little I've heard of it, it's not very accurate and may as well have been a prototype. I'm not sure how many were made or if any were even exported, or if TI could even acquire them for sale. They had the T81 SR made special to order and it had to get it's own FRT since it's a different receiver from the standard Type 81, and I'm sure that was possibly difficult enough for them already.

I'd like to see a Type 81 in 5.56 (EM355) come to market but I'd assume a mix of C21 (despite existing prior for the American market, before Norinco was banned from the US) and other potential factors putting a damper on us getting any Type 81s outside of their native clambering. I just want an 81M without paying scalper prices man.
Scalped prices really push me away from the type 81 when im basically paying for a ###ier sks. I'm no gunsmith but in the same way the ptrs is a beefed up version of an sks, would the same not be true for the type 81 sr to be chambered in 762x54r?
 
Indeed. Also to make things a little trickier, designing a proprietary mag that feeds rimmed cartridges would likely be enough of a headache for Norinco/Polytech that it would be refused for a non-mil order.
I thought it'd just be the internals of a svd magazine crammed into a type 81 type magazine but that does suck
 
I guess the most I can do is hope the svd or type 85 gets reclassified if that's even possible or I'm guessing c21 will affect that in some way
 
Scalped prices really push me away from the type 81 when im basically paying for a ###ier sks. I'm no gunsmith but in the same way the ptrs is a beefed up version of an sks, would the same not be true for the type 81 sr to be chambered in 762x54r?
Comparing the PTRS to the SKS is very large apples to much smaller oranges. Unless they have a way to cram internals (bolt will have to be much larger to accommodate a more powerful rimmed cartridge) that'll do x54R, and somehow have the same magwell (because you cant change the receiver, FRT and C21 blahblahblah) to take magazines (reproduction SVT mags are available, or proprietary-ish 5/5 round NDM86/SVD mags would have to be made) there's no feasible way to have a "x54R" Type 81. The closest you can get is having a T81 LMG rebarreld to 6.5 Grendel for improved long range and accuracy potential.

Settling for an SKS when a better rifle (not the Vz.58) is available for not a whole lot more? Get a Type 81 LMG, pull the bipod off (3mm punch takes out the pin) and maybe change the stock to a lighter one (NorthernArmoury on ####### makes a composite polymer one for best weight savings) and you're good to go, and wont regret settling.
The time to buy an SKS was a decade ago when you could have nearly half a dozen for what just one costs now. It doesnt hurt to have one now, but if you have the means you can always get one later and have something better first.
 
Hey Tactical Imports just wanted to ask if it'd ever be possible to get a type 81 in a larger caliber like 762x54r or 308. I'm assuming it would be considered a type 81 variant and not a dragonuv variant making it legal and would be a pretty popular choice for cheap ammo and great range and reliability. Would love to know if there's any actual plan to have such an item.
Q: Is it possible to start colonizing Alpha Centauri? It should not be a problem because the borderlands between the two hemispheres might offer benign temperatures.
A: Yes, provided we find a way to get there.

There's nothing to bring to begin with. Such firearm should be designed, built and tested as sample first (good luck convincing modern firearm designers about benefits of rimmed cartridges from 19th century) , then firearm tooling should be created. Then production could start. And this is VERY, VERY simplified break down of the process.
 
Q: Is it possible to start colonizing Alpha Centauri? It should not be a problem because the borderlands between the two hemispheres might offer benign temperatures.
A: Yes, provided we find a way to get there.

There's nothing to bring to begin with. Such firearm should be designed, built and tested as sample first (good luck convincing modern firearm designers about benefits of rimmed cartridges from 19th century) , then firearm tooling should be created. Then production could start. And this is VERY, VERY simplified break down of the process.
Comrade meow just wants to be the Vasiliy Zaytsev of Alpha Centauri and conquer it with a Type 81, easy enough feat, no? Getting there should be no problem, a stable genius like Musk will get us there in couple of years - enough lead time to get TI to spool the tooling and everything. :D
 
Comrade meow just wants to be the Vasiliy Zaytsev of Alpha Centauri and conquer it with a Type 81, easy enough feat, no? Getting there should be no problem, a stable genius like Musk will get us there in couple of years - enough lead time to get TI to spool the tooling and everything. :D
It'll probably take that long for the RCMP to approve it. Or should I say the Royal Centauri Mounted Police haha
 
It'll probably take that long for the RCMP to approve it. Or should I say the Royal Centauri Mounted Police haha
I have an under folder with a gunsmith to try and make it restricted with shorter barrel. I hope it gets approved in time for the flight ATT
 
Hey Tactical Imports just wanted to ask if it'd ever be possible to get a type 81 in a larger caliber like 762x54r or 308. I'm assuming it would be considered a type 81 variant and not a dragonuv variant making it legal and would be a pretty popular choice for cheap ammo and great range and reliability. Would love to know if there's any actual plan to have such an item.
I think what Tactical Imports is doing now, is just making use of Norinco's excess production power using standard type 81 parts, and putting them together as SA variants, whenever there's a major production run going on. Originally the type 81 assaults, but since the production line for assault rifles is now shut down (and nobody knows whether there'll still be some other 3rd World country coming up and ordering another batch), right now TI can only get access to those LMG parts as LMG's production line is still there... That's why you first have type 81 SR, then you have type 81M, which are essentially all type 81 LMG with slight modifications...

I would love to see some full caliber 7.62x54R type 81, but I guess it too big of a challenge for TI right now, as even if TI can get around with RCMP saying it's only a "variant", TI still needs to do a whole bunch of modifications to the rifle, which means some major retooling at Norinco... Don't know if it's feasible.

But yeah, TI can prove me wrong lol, as long as the barrels are not canted, I'd love to get one for myself...
 
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