Sterling Arms R18 MK3

fourninerzero said:
Any word on when these will hit retailers? Will there be a preorder or similar to put a deposit down to get one when they arrive?
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We have specifically told retailers they are NOT allowed to take preorders with funds. Making a list is perfectly reasonable though. The 9mm’s will land in dealers hands first (November) and the 5.56 sometime in Dec/Jan.
 
I really wanna like this rifle, and I hope it lives up to expectations. But the whole idea of non restricted "AR180 type Canadian compliant" modern sporting rifles that have flooded our market since the OIC hurts my brain. So many of them are pure junk and low quality. Im willing to pay good money for a rifle that doesnt have issues, but to pay ANY kind of money for a "NOT OIC" firearm that falls apart just kills me. So I REALLY hope that this is the one to change all this and actually get my credit card!
 
84wh1 said:
I really wanna like this rifle, and I hope it lives up to expectations. But the whole idea of non restricted "AR180 type Canadian compliant" modern sporting rifles that have flooded our market since the OIC hurts my brain. So many of them are pure junk and low quality. Im willing to pay good money for a rifle that doesnt have issues, but to pay ANY kind of money for a "NOT OIC" firearm that falls apart just kills me. So I REALLY hope that this is the one to change all this and actually get my credit card!
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Do you have any experience with any of what you call junk rifles which came out in the past few years?
 
Bartok5 said:
I should have a test rifle in-hand for evaluation in a few weeks time. In addition to providing my feedback to Sterling Arms, I will be providing a CGN Initial Impressions Review and an Intial Shooting Report (Reliability, Accuracy, Perceived Recoil, etc). The long-term, high round-count reporting will be provided by The Shooting Edge, based on one or more Range Rental rifles.

Some readers will have undoubtedly noticed that the MSRP is $1000 (30%) less expensive than the R18 Mk2. How did Sterling Arms International achieve such cost savings so that they could pass them on to the Canadian consumer? The "Magic" was to move the manufacturing of major components off-shore, where labour is far less expensive for ISO-quality manufacturing capacity. The winner is the end-user, who reaps the benefit of a far less expensive rifle which is actually of higher quality than the R18 Mk 2. For instance, the R18 Mk3 features Type 5 Hard-Coat Anodized T7075 aluminum Receiver halves, whereas the Mk2 utilized the less expensive (and softer) T6061 alloy.
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That's a pretty good spiel to say, we're taking manufacturing jobs away from you and giving them to your enemy.
 
I am not a big fan of the Turkey production. I can already see a delay in handling quality related issues. Now the availability is further pushed into the future, I guess this comes as a result to the pre production rifle which Bartok5 had/has in hand. Would be interesting to hear what the issues were.
 
scianna54 said:
I am not a big fan of the Turkey production. I can already see a delay in handling quality related issues. Now the availability is further pushed into the future, I guess this comes as a result to the pre production rifle which Bartok5 had/has in hand. Would be interesting to hear what the issues were.
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I'm hoping it's not issues, but incorporating of the feedback provided. Barrel nut and toolless handguard retention screw changes are minor but require some time to accommodate. But even if there are some issues to address, it's better to be done before the launch. I'd rather wait a couple months and get a product without obvious bugs.
 
Tokay444 said:
That's a pretty good spiel to say, we're taking manufacturing jobs away from you and giving them to your enemy.
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With that kind of attitude, I hope you don't check the side of most modern shotguns with big names, and really hope you drive a Honda if you're that cavalier.
 
For the people that have been in the sport for a long time, how common is it that a manufacturer actively takes criticism from the internet on a pre production rifle and then actually implements the changes? I personally can't recall any others doing that since the OIC
 
Just for the record, there are many other Canadian-manufactured options - newly announced Wk Gen3, Crusader rifles, new offerings from BCL. I'm hoping that everyone who is so against Turkey will support these companies and vote with their credit card accordingly.
 
S3RVO said:
For the people that have been in the sport for a long time, how common is it that a manufacturer actively takes criticism from the internet on a pre production rifle and then actually implements the changes? I personally can't recall any others doing that since the OIC
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In Canada, this is a first I think. PSA is pretty good for that stuff down south.

It's refreshing and I hope to see the trend continue in meaningful ways. Especially when you have the likes of JR chiming in with info and engaging with the community. There's only a handful of figures in the Canadian gun business that catch my interest in what they have to say when they do speak, he's one.
 
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