Suppressors are awesome.

Lol at the keeners jumping to tell us what the law is.

Also, in before one of the resident LEOs jumps in to retell his/her experience with suppressors, and thusly knows for sure that the public has no business owning such a deadly device
 
Suther said:
Yeah, that's why Mulroney repealed it in the 80s, and Harper repealed it in the 2000s....

PP thinks automatics should be prohib and handguns restricted, so I wouldn't hold my breath that anything is gonna happen on the suppressor front...
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The fact that you think mulroney and harper didn't lead leftist governments is very telling. - dan
 
pimbom said:
Any device intended to muffle the sound of a firearm has been unlawful in Canada since the early 1900s. Sound

California too. Backwards liberal state
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I believe it was the 30's. Lot of anti communist (that was the big fear at the time) anti gun legislation happened at that time. 34 I think, but I haven't gone and looked it up. - dan
 
1934 to be precise, same time handguns became restricted firearms.

What I don't get is why the hearing of LE personnel is so much more valuable that ours is? Many agencies in Canada have adopted suppressors to avoid claims for hearing loss.
The governments claim that us not having the possibility of lawfully using sound suppressors due to LE then not hearing is crap. The patrol vehicles preclude them from hearing almost everything and foot patrols are a thing of the past for the most part.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
1934 to be precise, same time handguns became restricted firearms.

What I don't get is why the hearing of LE personnel is so much more valuable that ours is? Many agencies in Canada have adopted suppressors to avoid claims for hearing loss.
The governments claim that us not having the possibility of lawfully using sound suppressors due to LE then not hearing is crap. The patrol vehicles preclude them from hearing almost everything and foot patrols are a thing of the past for the most part.
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Government employees are more valuable than the rest of us, just ask them. - dan
 
Onagoth said:
I don’t know

On an AR the back pressure is pretty unpleasant and you’ll be constantly eating toxic fumes and particulate. The gases even escape from the charging handle area

My next one will be a flow through from huxwrx or sig to see if that makes any difference

My 22s are pretty sweet suppressed. Especially with subsonics
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What's an AR?
Kidding. I did notice the brass on the AR fired cases was almost black with soot/carbon. That was another fun thing, guys shooting PRS with ARs.
 
paz said:
So what's the legal reasoning for them not being allowed here in Canada?
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the legal reason was last time we had a E-petition the rcmp told the lady in charge that they wouldn't be able to hear where the bullets were coming from if suppressed. so she didn't allow them .
 
Donny Fenn1 said:
What's an AR?
Kidding. I did notice the brass on the AR fired cases was almost black with soot/carbon. That was another fun thing, guys shooting PRS with ARs.
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In fairness, I don’t have an adjustable gas block on the rifle I was using….so excess gases were coming back. Plus I was in a booth at the indoor range with improper fans so it was all building up. It was unpleasant

I’m not sure an adjustable block will make that big of a difference and flow through is probably the way (plus not shooting indoors). I think even the military is now concerned about health impacts of high volume suppressor use

Now…I’m just waiting for the huxwrx ventum 7.62 to get back in stock
 
cheaplaughs1 said:
the legal reason was last time we had a E-petition the rcmp told the lady in charge that they wouldn't be able to hear where the bullets were coming from if suppressed. so she didn't allow them .
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Once again the criminal use of a thing is a reason that the law abiding should not be able to own that thing? Canadian authorities have a seriously FUKCED UP sense of how things work.
 
paz said:
So what's the legal reasoning for them not being allowed here in Canada?
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I don't believe there is any legal reason... it's just due to the politicians of the day... I think they were prohibited back in the 30's... maybe even before that.
 
Thorsbear said:
Fake silencers for airsoft are also banned from import to Canada because retards
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in my late teens I made one for a paintball gun not knowing a thing about any gun laws ..... it wasn't a gun. I made it with plastic pipe , a drill , some insulation batting and epoxy LOL It actually worked quite well.
never gave it a second thought until a year or so later at an event in delta bc my paintball gun got disqualified at sign in for an illegal device.
The guy examining everyone's gear and checking the paintball muzzle speed with a chrony was a off duty delta police officer. Normally you get temporarily disqualified if your gun shoots over a certain speed..... you adjust the valve until it passes.... simple. The issue was the "silencer" LOL He made me remove it and gave me a stern "those are illegal" speach
I didn't get into any trouble , it just went in the trash and I went on and competed in the team matches.
Seems a really dumb law made by excessively paranoid people
 
Ian McCollum has made some interesting video's on suppressors. When the USA made them require a tax stamp, was roughly in the 30's. The reason given was poaching and depletion of species etc, but a large reason was to prevent common folk from owning them. Same with short barrelled rifles and shotguns in the USA. The $200 tax stamp was meant to be prohibitive to purchasing, as it often was more money than the firearm or suppressor itself. Only recently thanks to inflation has that fee become more reasonable.
 
Paintball "guns" are not legally a firearm. They are not controlled by the Firearm Act .... THEREFORE .... a paintball silencer is not a prohibited device because it does not and is not intended to muffle the noise of a firearm. Anyone who claims a paintball silencer is prohibited is also claiming that a paintball launcher is a firearm and thus requires a PAL .... which we know they do not.
 
remyltr said:
until an organisation or rich individual takes the government to court with a OHS challange
this subject will continue to raise its head.
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Yes, although a group of people could accomplish the same thing.

The problem is Canadian gun owners for the most part are the most miserly identifiable group of people and thusly we won't get anywhere.

If 10,000 people donate $100 this would get somewhere.
 
I Dont Care About You said:
Once again the criminal use of a thing is a reason that the law abiding should not be able to own that thing? Canadian authorities have a seriously FUKCED UP sense of how things work.
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^I think this is the heart of the matter. Like the carbon tax, we start accepting it and debating how high it should/shouldn't be instead of being laser-focused on scrapping it.

I'm in for $100 towards the fight btw.
 
we have a gov't in place that doesn't recognize the shooting sports, how can they be expected to respect the health and safety of shooters
sadly this can be applied to much of the populace too, guns are bad, the fear is strong
 
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