Buckle up!!!

According to the Canadian Taxpayers Federation:

45k a year at 55, going up yearly due to indexing, 54k at 60, etc etc.

If he lives until 90 that's potentially 2.3 million dollars for 6 years of 'work'.

You think he's going to leave that money on the table? Nah
After 45 years, with average inflation of 5% the $2.3M will be like 200K in todays money.
 
Who cares if sellout Singh he gets his pension….Most of us have been asking for an election and he’s doing his part now. Small price to pay if you ask me.

Now the pressure will be on PP to help out all the bun owners not just the hunters. IIRC he’s only ever promised to help the hunters. I’ve never heard him say anything axing about the handgun freeze.

I hope I’m wrong and just missed it.
 
Right on Comrade, you would have gone really far in my former socialist homeland

Taxpayer funded, not state media. There is a big difference, but I know nobody around here is willing to acknowledge that.


News Media no longer has a functioning business model. Either we the people collectively fund media, or the ultra-rich fund the media. I for one don't like billionaires - whether left wing or right wing - being the only source of news. YMMV.
 
Taxpayer funded, not state media. There is a big difference, but I know nobody around here is willing to acknowledge that.


News Media no longer has a functioning business model. Either we the people collectively fund media, or the ultra-rich fund the media. I for one don't like billionaires - whether left wing or right wing - being the only source of news. YMMV.
Billionaires are awesome. Unelected billionaires having positions of power are awesome.

Unless its Soros or Bloomberg haha.

The whole pension thing never justified it to me either. Tried explaining it a few times but usually to no avail. Imagine there were two right wing parties. One is in power but both of their approval ratings were in the toilet, historically low. The Liberals were way ahead. Would you want one of those two. Would YOU want one to pull the plug now, get the Liberals in power now, instead of waiting a year?

How's that likely to help you and not hurt?
 
Taxpayer funded, not state media. There is a big difference, but I know nobody around here is willing to acknowledge that.


News Media no longer has a functioning business model. Either we the people collectively fund media, or the ultra-rich fund the media. I for one don't like billionaires - whether left wing or right wing - being the only source of news. YMMV.
You mean like the CBC, right? While it is taxpayer funded, it behaves like state controlled media
 
You mean like the CBC, right? While it is taxpayer funded, it behaves like state controlled media
Does it though?

When the CPC gets in power will they magically switch to being right wing?

Or is it that 60-65% of Canadians vote left, and thus a CBC that leans left better reflects the views of Canadians as a whole?


I can point to literally dozens of articles on CBC critical of JT and his policies, lots of examples of things state media wouldn't be publishing. I bet I can find more articles on CBC that are critical of the Liberals/Trudeau than you can find on Rebel Media being critical of the CPC/Pierre.
 
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Does it though?

When the CPC gets in power will they magically switch to being right wing?

Or is it that 60-65% of Canadians vote left, and thus a CBC that leans left better reflects the views of Canadians as a whole?
Depends how many people at CBC lose their jobs. As for the 60-65%, you may be in for a bit of a surprise next election, but time will tell
 
Depends how many people at CBC lose their jobs. As for the 60-65%, you may be in for a bit of a surprise next election, but time will tell
Oh next election will be different no doubt. But it won't be a dramatic shift. Chances of the CPC getting a majority of votes is extremely small. As it sits right now the CPC is polling around 43%. Thats a long ways from 50%.

The CPC has two major factors working in their favor right now though - the fact everyone wants Trudeau gone, and the fact that incumbent parties across the globe are falling right now. After this next election they won't have either of those things working in their favor, and I predict they will drop below 40% of the vote again at that point.

Also, there is a historical trend to all this. The left has won 60-65% of the vote in virtually every election since WW2. Even during the Stephen Harper CPC the left was still pulling in 60% of the vote, it was just heavily split between multiple parties allowing the CPC to ride to victory.


Billionaires are awesome. Unelected billionaires having positions of power are awesome.

12 years ago Zuckerberg and Bezos were worth under $20B each, and Musk was worth like $2B. Today they are collectively worth $900B+. But its immigrants who are the problem. Mhmmm.
 
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We ARE his country, he was born in Scarborough.
It would be nice if more would stop falling for the xenophobia being peddled by certain portions of the right(ish) leaning groups.

To be fair, I wouldn't either lol. That'll buy him quite a few more suits, watches, and expensive cars
So, you aren't criticizing him for waiting then?

I'll take taxpayer funded media over Billionaire funded media. YMMV.
Mileage certainly does vary. The billionaires are far more trustworthy than the state, but that is an exceedingly low bar to clear.

Taxpayer funded, not state media. There is a big difference, but I know nobody around here is willing to acknowledge that.
When the state is in control of the taxpayer funds and deciding who gets paid there is no difference between them.

Billionaires are awesome.
I knew we would eventually agree on something. ;)


Mark
 
12 years ago Zuckerberg and Bezos were worth under $20B each, and Musk was worth like $2B. Today they are collectively worth $900B+. But its immigrants who are the problem. Mhmmm.

Well you know, since we all started caring so much about homeless Canadians last year, you have to admit that immigration is a problem.

At the same time its still somehow their own fault and everyone could own a house if they just worked harder.
 
Well you know, since we all started caring so much about homeless Canadians last year, you have to admit that immigration is a problem.

At the same time its still somehow their own fault and everyone could own a house if they just worked harder.
Working class Immigrants aren't buying $1M houses. Working class Immigrants aren't demolishing the very limited amount of affordable rental housing we have to redevelop into $1M condos. Working class Immigrants are not hiring immigrants at below-market wages to screw the rest of us (Well ok, some of those bosses are immigrants, but thats not an IMMIGRANT problem, its a bosses problem).

We do need to cut back on immigration in the short term while we get our #### together, but none of this is their fault.
 
When the state is in control of the taxpayer funds and deciding who gets paid there is no difference between them.

I disagree. Have you seen the stuff that gets published by National Post? They are one of the many organizations that take funding. They're CLEARLY not state media.

Things like Rebel Media don't get funding, but thats because they don't meet the journalistic standards required to get the funding.
 
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Oh next election will be different no doubt. But it won't be a dramatic shift. Chances of the CPC getting a majority of votes is extremely small. As it sits right now the CPC is polling around 43%. Thats a long ways from 50%.

The CPC has two major factors working in their favor right now though - the fact everyone wants Trudeau gone, and the fact that incumbent parties across the globe are falling right now. After this next election they won't have either of those things working in their favor, and I predict they will drop below 40% of the vote again at that point.

Also, there is a historical trend to all this. The left has won 60-65% of the vote in virtually every election since WW2. Even during the Stephen Harper CPC the left was still pulling in 60% of the vote, it was just heavily split between multiple parties allowing the CPC to ride to victory.




12 years ago Zuckerberg and Bezos were worth under $20B each, and Musk was worth like $2B. Today they are collectively worth $900B+. But its immigrants who are the problem. Mhmmm.
I hate the vast majority of billionaires, with the possible exception of Warren Buffett because he's apparently very humble from everything I've seen and read about him. You don't get to be a billionaire 99.9% of the time without screwing over many other people, and there's no good reason to acquire that level of money unless you're greedy as all out, and you seek to control others lives. Anything over $999 million should be forcefully confiscated. That's my personal limit as to believing in capitalism.
 
12 years ago Zuckerberg and Bezos were worth under $20B each, and Musk was worth like $2B. Today they are collectively worth $900B+. But its immigrants who are the problem. Mhmmm.
Who do you think enabled and facilitated them reaching those levels of wealth? It wasn't the private sector, I assure you. Did Bezos and Zuck steal from you to get that rich? Why do you care how rich other people are?

I'll still buy you that beer if you make it out west at some point, don't worry. (y)

I disagree. Have you seen the stuff that gets published by National Post? They are one of the many organizations that take funding. They're CLEARLY not state media.
The conflict of interest is still built in, regardless of an exception that defies the norm.

Anything over $999 million should be forcefully confiscated. That's my personal limit as to believing in capitalism.
Welcome to the communist party, comrade.


Mark
 
Who do you think enabled and facilitated them reaching those levels of wealth? It wasn't the private sector, I assure you. Did Bezos and Zuck steal from you to get that rich? Why do you care how rich other people are?


Bezos is playing space cowboy while the people who do the real work in his warehouses and delivery trucks are pissing in bottles to avoid getting fired for working too slow while barely being able to afford a roof over their head. That is why I care.

For every billionaire there is hundreds if not thousands of working class people being exploited. That is why I care..

We live in a world where the working class is falling further and further behind, while the ultra-wealthy see their wealth skyrocket. That is why I care.

From 1984 to 2014 the poorest 50% of Canadians saw their share of total income drop by 28%, while the top 1% saw theirs rise by 52%. Since the 1970s productivity has outpaced wage growth 3 to 1 despite the fact that from ww2 to the 1970s they kept pace with each other. That is why I care.



I don't understand why so many people around here seem to care more about billionaires than they do the working class. I can't figure out if y'all are secretly very wealthy yourselves, or if you're just easily duped into fighting against your best interests...
 
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